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uspol / Gaslighting 

Be extremely cautious when interacting with right wing agent provocateurs. They have adopted a strategy of gaslighting and subversion of meaningful discussion

You may not be engaging in dialogue or 鈥渄ebate鈥 so much as playing into their performance

I don鈥檛 yet know of an effective strategy to combat this besides early detection. But if you鈥檙e in a heated argument, that can be difficult

Via: twitter.com/deotasdevil/status

uspol / Gaslighting 

@cypnk I suppose that blocking randos with anime avatars on sight isn't a viable strategy on Twitter.

uspol / Gaslighting 

@starbreaker If only ;)

Sadly, that too can backfire in some ways

uspol / Gaslighting 

@cypnk How so? I see no downside in blocking people if their profile is blank, or if their profile or post history has anything to suggest that they aren't worth my time.

uspol / Gaslighting 

@starbreaker Post history may be a better indicator. There are plenty of anime avis on the Fediverse too and I鈥檝e had many lively and friendly discussions with some of them. This is all personal choice of course, but I don鈥檛 think I鈥檒l take the preemptive blocking route just yet

uspol / Gaslighting 

@cypnk

> There are plenty of anime avis on the Fediverse too and I鈥檝e had many lively and friendly discussions with some of them.

So have I, which is why I made a point suggesting that people block them on sight on Twitter. :)

You don't have to preemptively block if you don't want to. One of my "issues" is that I look for reasons to push people away and cut them out of my life, and it doesn't take much.

uspol / Gaslighting 

@starbreaker Personal interaction hygiene really is very important. Whatever else, your sanity and sense of well-being is the most important thing

uspol / Gaslighting 

@cypnk My sanity has been fucked for decades. Why do you think I work as a software developer? :)

uspol / Gaslighting 

@cypnk It's not particularly novel. That sort of thing has been a staple of activists for ages. I've seen it from LGBTQA activists, vegans, green activists, pro-choice and pro-life ... really, it's not new at all.

uspol / Gaslighting 

@jankoekepan In the age of social media, the tactic takes on far more potency and it should be emphasized

uspol / Gaslighting 

@cypnk The same thing goes for all sorts of dismissal. I can't even remember all the veg(etari)ans that dismiss everything I say just because I'm a farmer and therefore I'm obviously in the pocket of ConAgra or Monsanto or something, or repeat the old saw about me being unable to understand something because my pay depends upon not understanding it ....

I guess it's fine to explain to newbies online, but to me it's just another day on the internet.

uspol / Gaslighting 

@cypnk The tactic that your reference elucidates is a form of dismissal that does not engage the core argument, but discourages further participation by suggesting that it is fruitless or even counterproductive.

This is a well-established pattern that I have seen, in various forms, from various activists, on various ends of the political vector space, and only new arrivals would seem to be surprised by it. But telling them is worthwhile.

uspol / Gaslighting 

@cypnk what's "revealing your power level" about?

uspol / Gaslighting 

@marnanel Copious amounts of hot air, I suspect

I don鈥檛 yet know of an effective strategy to combat this



Why not reply with the very image you just posted?

@hypolite @amphetamine If I see it. This scene plays out on many other places and it鈥檚 not always possible to post the images (or confirm that they鈥檙e read). A concise text reply would probably be a more effective counter that鈥檚 easily shared

Like they said: no matter what textual rebuttal you post, they can keep replying the same. However, if you show this is a tactic, then you don't even have to provide a textual rebuttal.

uspol / Gaslighting 

@cypnk Someone should reply to that post with "that is for mushing normal people further to the left." The last sentences of the post are en effort to stave off or preemptively undermine such an attack. It shows that they're as at a loss about how to counteract the strategy they propose as we are.

uspol / Gaslighting 

@cypnk in case there was any doubt about the authenticity of this post, here it is in a 4chan archive. Not that it ready matters, this is happening regardless, I was just curious.
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/

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