@happymoomoo @brion @unlofl Be careful to review though. Yes, there are hundreds of models, but pick only those you know have good Libreboot support

@restioson @happymoomoo Clevo is the OEM for both System75 and Tuxedo Computers. They just add their own customizations

@cypnk @happymoomoo ah ok, interesting!

@restioson @cypnk @happymoomoo the advantage of tuxedo for me is local support. But for the sake of it, how or where would i order the new ryzen 7 4800h Clevo that they use for tuxedo pulse 15?

@zladuric @restioson @happymoomoo Tuxedo orders barebones from Clevo and install the CPU, RAM etc... themselves

If Clevo does at some point do their own 4800, it will be listed here https://clevo-computer.com/en/laptops-configurator/powered-by-amd-ryzen/

@cypnk @restioson @happymoomoo ah, so that how it works. I was wondering why'd people want you get this stuff like that instead of relying on someone like tuxedo doing the hard work for you.

@zladuric There's some cross-pollination in hardware. E.G. System76 and Tuxedo both use Clevo as their OEM, but with different specs (nicer screens, more memory etc...)

@cypnk yes, I'm asking would you count them as Linux vendors?
Especially given that System 76 even has it's own factory to assemble computers:

https://blog.system76.com/post/633063985732796417/behind-the-scenes-of-thelio-mega-engineering

@zladuric Of course they're Linux vendors. In fact I would count any company that sells at least 50% of their hardware in Linux offerings under that label