me: i would like to buy one general-purpose computer please

apple: no

microsoft: maybe

dell: if you're a developer, ok for now

weird small linux manufacturers: duuuuuude try a drag of this one, maaaaaaaan, it'll make you see the bits in your miiiiiiiiiind

@unlofl @brion >weird small linux manufacturers So, like, two of them.

@happymoomoo @brion @unlofl

- Purism
- Lemote ("smallish")
- Pine64
- ZaReason
- Clevo

And about several dozen others from Shenzhen, Taipei, Chennai, and Hanoi among other hub cities

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@cypnk @brion @unlofl Oh my, might be worth a look! Hopefully there's more than just Purism that focuses on libre and secure hardware.

@happymoomoo @brion @unlofl Be careful to review though. Yes, there are hundreds of models, but pick only those you know have good Libreboot support

@restioson @happymoomoo Clevo is the OEM for both System75 and Tuxedo Computers. They just add their own customizations

@restioson @cypnk @happymoomoo the advantage of tuxedo for me is local support. But for the sake of it, how or where would i order the new ryzen 7 4800h Clevo that they use for tuxedo pulse 15?

@zladuric @restioson @happymoomoo Tuxedo orders barebones from Clevo and install the CPU, RAM etc... themselves

If Clevo does at some point do their own 4800, it will be listed here

@cypnk @restioson @happymoomoo ah, so that how it works. I was wondering why'd people want you get this stuff like that instead of relying on someone like tuxedo doing the hard work for you.

@cypnk @happymoomoo @brion @unlofl

Do tuxedocomputers, system76, schenker count? S76 even has a factory now.

@zladuric There's some cross-pollination in hardware. E.G. System76 and Tuxedo both use Clevo as their OEM, but with different specs (nicer screens, more memory etc...)

@cypnk yes, I'm asking would you count them as Linux vendors?
Especially given that System 76 even has it's own factory to assemble computers:

@zladuric Of course they're Linux vendors. In fact I would count any company that sells at least 50% of their hardware in Linux offerings under that label

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