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"Companies that sell consumer electronics such as refrigerators, washers, hairdryers, or TVs in the European Union - and in the UK - will need to ensure those goods can be repaired for up to 10 years."

UK has to follow the same manufacturing rules since it continues to trade with the EU

It only covers appliances, but it's a step in the right direction

independent.co.uk/life-style/g

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My only concern now is what happens to the large volume of unrepairable devices already out there

Public E-waste recycling has become a joke and expecting manufacturers to handle their own recycling doesn't work too well either

At least this will help reduce future waste

@cypnk I read once that the GDR/DDR used to require companies to manufacture appliances to a high standard of length of service and reliability. Is that true?

@gemlog I think the truth is somewhat muddled. Technically, they demanded a lengthy service life of critical equipment, but the economic hardships meant quality wasn't always as high

Also, getting parts not locally manufactured, especially early computer parts, was still a royal pain so some corners were cut out of sheer necessity

Oddly, the UK may experience a few of the same, entirely preventable, conditions

@cypnk "UK has to follow the same manufacturing rules since it continues to trade with the EU"
Oh, the irony! :-)

@gemlog Somehow, a lot of folks forgot they were on a bunch of islands

@gemlog @cypnk Great news. This #RightToRepair law could even benefit Americans. Consider that Braun & Norelco/Philips design their electric shavers to self-destruct if you try to replace the battery. I think these are German companies. Will they manufacture separate self-destructing models for outside the EU? Unlikely. The world will benefit from this.

@resist1984 @gemlog @cypnk

It's definitely a step forward! Let's see how this works out in practice.

(By the way, Braun is a german company but owned by US comp. Procter&Gamble, Phillips is and always has been a dutch company.)

@walfischbucht @cypnk @gemlog Thanks for the info. I was boycotting Braun because of the battery issue, but I also boycott P&G for financing a right-wing #climateDenial PAC, so I guess I'll continue the Braun boycott even if they fix stop soldering batteries.

@cypnk

As I recall, the last time this kind of measure was floated, it ended up VASTLY watered down, until all manufacturers were required to do was provide disassembly instructions for final disposal.

@publius I think this time may be different because there's more public momentum behind it

Besides, most people only care about things that affect them personally or their families. The economic impact of the pandemic is driving those same folks to reassess their spending habits. If repairing is better for one's own bottom line, it might be more effective in changing attitudes than just framing it as saving the environment

@cypnk will it allow to repair my appliances?

I can not access the article, it automatically redirects to a Spanish version. 😅

@iiqof Ah sorry, here's the actually important bit:

"Under the new EU rules, manufacturers will have to ensure parts are available for up to a decade, though some will only be provided to professional repair companies to ensure they are installed correctly.

New devices will also have to come with repair manuals and be made in such a way that they can be dismantled using conventional tools when they really can't be fixed anymore, to improve recycling."

so no, I will not have my freedom to repair ( not that I don't excercise it now, in a high seas sailor way)

Thanks for the section @cypnk !

@cypnk

Discussing this with one friend, and he asked, "What happens with the software side of the devices?" :D

@BillySmith The thing that comes to mind is farm equipment. Farmers are already hacking their firmware here because they've been vendor-locked. So even running diagnostics is impossible without a (very) expensive visit by a technician, who may not be available until after harvest

@cypnk

Yes, the John Deere thing was first thing that came to mind, as well as the car manufacturers doing the same.

The IoT product markets will be funny. :D

Also, it means that they've extended the UK product lifespans to 10 years, where previously 7 years was seen as the legally "reasonable length of time" . :D

@cypnk
Buh, only 10 years? Why not as long as copyright?

@cypnk They'll just get around this by charging as much for parts as a new device.

This just happened to me with an expensive ($650) washing machine, it broke after 4 years, repair man said it needed a new motherboard, which cost, you guessed it, $650. Luckily we had bought the extended insurance so they sent us a check to buy a new one. I ended up replacing the latch with a toggle switch and we are still using it...

@moparisthebest That's a lot easier to pull in the US, although I'm sure shenanigans will happen in the EU

The benefit is still here to stay since it's more expensive to produce separate repairable and unrepairable appliance versions. I also expect imports of repairable versions by third party sellers here

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