PSA #Audacity is now radioactive
@brennen Yes, indeed. I don't know if there are recent viable alternatives, but with the recent licensing shenanigans on top, I can see at least a few popping up
@cypnk i think people probably aren't going to put up with this nonsense.
i will happily put a couple dollars a month towards funding a viable community fork or similarly featured alternative. it's one of those pieces of software i don't need all that often, but when i do it's great to have it available.
They also said contributed code from authors who won't sign it will be removed in the future
Actual page on that:
@cypnk Also I am not much of an Audacity user, but this seems odd:
"Minors: The App we provide is not intended for individuals below the age of 13. If you are under 13 years old, please do not use the App."
afaik there isn't any adult/scary content within Audacity, so it seems strange that there should be an age limit.
@bob I believe this is preemptive RIAA appeasement which would make draconian anti-piracy enforcement more palatable. DMCA abuse has already made fair use a joke so the last frontier is controlling creation of the media itself
At least in the US, 18 is usually the age for objectionable (in a legally-actionable sense) content. 13 is the age for identifying data on the Internet.
So I am guessing from this that Audacity folks are afraid the data they're collecting could actually identify you as an individual.
@saphie @bob @cypnk The whole thing with many programs now gathering telemetry reminds me of how inadequate the four freedoms are at the present time. There could be something in the license regarding data collection from the user. The last time GPL was updated was 2007, and things have changed since.
@cypnk Wow, it is far worse compared to what I imagined when they first announced they put Google Analytics in it (which was bad enough to uninstall it). :/
@cypnk > Data necessary for law enforcement, litigation and authorities’ requests (if any)
is this now a CIA bugged program or what are they implying?
@Johann150 I'm struggling to find an alternative explanation for that specific wording. What you're making on your own computer may get matched to something like a YouTube "Content ID" style tracking down the pipeline where
@cypnk so RIAA clippy in Audacity "I see you are using copyrighted material. Sorry but I have to format your hard drive for you." when?
@cypnk who would have guessed that the hundreds of responses calling this out as utter trash before they incorporated it would have failed to change their minds.
If I wasn't code illiterate I'd support a fork.
@Mainebot I'm totally supporting a fork any way I can, even financially, if someone way more competent than me tries it
@bob @cypnk @Mainebot Couldn't distribution packagers just patch the telemetry out? That would cover a lot of existing users. The company will probably try to convince people to download builds from their website but this won't be necessary for most users of free operating systems. Users running non-free systems will routinely click "accept" on such privacy policies all over the place so an audacity fork would not help them much.
vent re: audacity bs
@cypnk they collect basic system info,
plus whatever the fuck law enforcement wants?
wow, okay. thanks. glad my audio editor will just spy on me whenever the cops feel like it. that's where I needed that.
they also legally have to tell you that you can't use audacity if you're under 13, because they collect info on you. which is like. okay. guess that preteens aren't allowed to do basic computer things any more because they're not marketable any more
vent re: audacity bs
@clarfonthey I'm sure the age limit is to make the spying more "acceptable"
I heard back from a friend who said he's still using it for the time being, but might be on an air-gapped laptop. At this point, a fork is the only option since the folks in charge are hopeless
re: vent re: audacity bs
@cypnk it's not just about acceptability, in the US we probably have the most comprehensive privacy laws if you're under 13. you basically can't store content for anyone under 13 without heavy restrictions and guardian approval.
so, that's almost certainly why they have the clause there.
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