Brands, businesses, influencers and power users will eventually join the fediverse. Why not embrace them? Its in our best interest to grow the fediverse.
I started a new suite of tools in June to support them. It was created with privacy in mind, you will only see public data insights and stats. Any user will be able to use this feature. After federation support is finished I will focus on this again! #pixelfed
@dansup So looking forward to translating all pixelfed :D
@dansup aha bold in the menu is back. bless
@MightyPork Yeah, i took your advice and changed all the menus.
@mmn I would prefer if you maintain GNU/Social and actually respond to issues/merge requests instead of reacting to my statuses.
When contacting a company via any private channel (e-mail, phone, whatever), they can just ignore you or do whatever they please, and rarely they get burnt.
Companies/brands use social media to promote themselves. The more followers they have, the better the promotion. But also, the bigger the burn if somebody calls them out publicly on their bullshit.
So in a way they are making themselves vulnerable.
@mmn makes sense!
@mmn It would be helpful for any social org's outreach. Seeing what people like to interact with is good knowledge. Especially as many social org's have limited resources. This is also something any big corp would have no issue to handle themselves. Making it available to everyone would be a more democratically way.
If you where tasked to do this. How would you do it?
@GardenOfForkingPaths @mmn @dansup No, wouldn't think so... FB, Google, Github e.t.c.. probably scores a lot higher. Also Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. With a bit more resources invested one would be able to find that out though. Right now I only know of https://mastodon-tags-explorer.hcxp.co/tags/broad which could hint on that kind of questions.
@Michcioperz The main difference is visibility. There are no ads on the fediverse. Your timeline is yours, based on the people you follow and in chronological order.
@Michcioperz There is no federated timeline on pixelfed. Just your personal timeline and the local timeline.
@Michcioperz How? You willingly follow the users whose content appear in your timeline. You can unfollow them or report them too.
@Michcioperz By using public data like a discover page based on hashtags you've used as well as content relevant to accounts you follow.
>but ads can be brought into the federated timelines through spammy accounts
Which already happens if one takes a look at the federated timelines.
Also, "influencers" are mostly enterprises, aka they sell products (mainly themselves, but not only). Some of them don't, but most of them function like that.
They won't come here any time soon because there's not enough people (nor mainstream consumerist background) to "influence" (sell) profitably. My guess.
@dansup I came here to escape brands. Well, to escape from the mindset that brands and celebrities and breaking news are all-important. I can get news elsewhere, and I just buy things when I need them to use instead of "engaging with brands", I'm not interested in celebrities unless they're doing something I care about (like write books; but then it's the books I'm interested in, not the fact that they're famous).
In short, if Mastodon turns into Twitter I'm not at home here any more either.
@irina You will never see brands unless you follow them or someone you follow shares them.
@dansup although it’s inevitable that those things would eventually make their way into the fediverse, actively creating tools in order to help them is, at least from my view, anathema to the entire point of the federated networks. are we not here to simply socialize, not to be “influenced” and advertised to? why help the people we’re avoiding?
that being said, it stands that it probably wouldn’t usually show up unless it’s wanted.
@dansup Charge a recurring fee for that
@dansup Gotta say, without any context this looks pretty worrying. What kind of "insights" and "tools" would be offered?
@dansup what images would a brand share that would *not* be an ad? How long until you offer timeline ad placement for a fee, turning pixelfed into just another Instagram?
@dansup This sounds like it's going to be a good argument for me when I start attempting to convert influential instagrammers.
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