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:pixelfed: Circles will enable users to have more control over the content they share! I can't wait to ship this feature!

@dansup the way you demonstrate it in the screencast leads me to believe it'll be confusing if done as-is. google+ had this issue too, so let me put it briefly: consider, how can you share to a circle and to a collection at the same time? access control and categorization need to be distinct.

@trwnh A collection is just like a post, you can set the scope to which it is shared.

@dansup ok that's good. i wanna clarify that having circles in "visibility" dropdown is good and makes sense, my comment is more about the "scope" thing when creating the circle. that was confusing and not immediately understandable to me. the circle *is* the scope -- it doesn't make sense to say a circle is public or followers-only or circle only, unless you are referring to who can see the members of a circle.

@trwnh Oh I agree, scope should be renamed to visibility when creating a circle!

@dansup i'd argue that the "scope" field should be removed entirely, or otherwise renamed to clarify exactly what it's referring to. be explicit if necessary -- "who can see members?" is more understandable than "scope" or "visibility".

@dansup the biggest challenge is in disambiguating the terminology for overlapping concepts. google+ was an absolute mess when trying to share posts: you could share to a contact, a circle, a collection, or a community. the differences between each were never fully clarified.

@dansup stuff like "BCC Mode" is technically accurate but also not really understood by most people. something like "blind delivery mode" would work better. "hide recipients" would be even more ideal (although perhaps redundant with the summary text)

@trwnh @dansup
>"BCC mode" is not really understood by most people

Yeah, numerous stories about someone leaking a list of recipients by sending an email with all of them in CC instead of BCC are a great example that this is the case.

But this also means we'll need to teach them about BCC anyway if we don't want them to leak our email address, so why not spread the concept of BCC into more software?

@dansup @Wolf480pl i think the argument is more about what BCC actually means. it stands for "blind carbon copy" and many people don't know this. that's inaccessible jargon until you break it down and communicate the concept in a way that people can actually understand

@dansup @Wolf480pl to/cc/bto/bcc is shorthand for concepts that people need to understand first *before* they can use the shorthand

@trwnh @dansup
Ok, but if you move the shorthand completely out of sight, they'll never learn what it means.

@trwnh @dansup
This is the first time I hear the expansion of the acronym, yet somehow I knew what it does.

@Wolf480pl @dansup i'd chalk that up to practical experience. but not everyone is going to try random features. several people have only ever used "to" except when they accidentally reply-all

@trwnh @Wolf480pl Isn't "Send posts without mentioning other circle recipients." clear enough?

@dansup @Wolf480pl it could be clearer imo. the way it is right now makes it sound like it's about inserting mentions (the @-user representation) into the caption or something. it needs to be about delivery. something like "Prevent circle members from seeing other recipients" would work better

@dansup yess can't wait. Would love to be able to filter between friends and acquaintances. And ability to filter between what users share and what they post.

Facebook's news feed is a mess. Instagram is less cluttered.

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@dansup aren't circles been introduced by the now defunct google+?

@dansup btw you're doing an amazing work but we're in 2019, without an app on iOS/Android connected with the camera it's quite useless.
A new app this year would be great since many people will be pissed off on the announced Facebook/instagram/whatsapp integration.

@filippodb @dansup Ya anteriormente, Diáspora introdujo los "aspectos", que viene a ser lo mismo que los círculos.

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