My boyfriend was using Pixelfed for months before he found out about the local/network timelines.

He doesn't understand the point, and told me I should make it easier to discover accounts and content.

Not everyone uses these platforms the same, and I wouldn't be surprised if most people never check local or network timelines.

Anyways, its not really fair to compare Mastodon and Pixelfed since they are very different.

Wish all the best for the new app and the existing vibrant ecosystem of 3rd party apps!

@dansup hiding public timelines makes sense for pixelfed but not for mastodon imo. mastodon sites have more of a community niche because of being primarily text posts, whereas pixelfed is generalistic due to being more oriented to media sharing

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@trwnh One could argue that it would be more important to focus on discovery and relevancy than a firehose of randomness that may overwhelm people. The medium is irrelevant.

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@dansup It's not a firehose on most Mastodon sites, is the point. We're on one of the few sites that is an exception to that ;)

@trwnh @dansup That’s not even true. There are plenty of large servers around. And the federated feed is garbage even on small ones. People don’t seem to understand it’s not even “bad moderation” problem sometimes but a middle aged person coming across a perfectly allowed hypersexual shitpost, or a perfectly allowed, CW’d nude.

@Gargron @trwnh @dansup As the admin of an instance with about 10 active users I can confirm that the federated timeline is more than 50% garbage even on our very small instance. But again, I do use the federated timeline sometimes as a means of discovery, although it's not really very effective unless I'm getting lucky.

@Gargron federated feed can be trashy and/or overwhelming. Local feed on small instances often is pretty cool on the contrary

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@Gargron still, you’re right when you say (on github) that those public timelines are confusing to new non-techy users @dansup @trwnh

@Gargron I would agree that the federate timeline is not great. I rarely look at it, and when I do it's by accident. I love my local timeline though, and I've been told many times that the local feed is one of the best things about the instance. I agree. We work really hard to keep our local timeline relevant and accessible.

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@mike @Gargron @trwnh @dansup Agreed! I know for a fact that many Fosstodon users love their local timelines. Ive also been part of several other smaller or regional servers that take food care of their local timeline as it plays an important role for the development of the community.

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@Gargron @trwnh @dansup The fed timeline might be a hot mess, but it's a real honest representation of the userbase.

I could argue it's not only the ethical but cultural thing to show hypersexual shitposts to middle aged people. This is about expanding peoples perceptions.

"Death to the filter bubble" as in giving us a unmoderated and pure feed is a matter of principle to me. Protecting the easily scared WASP isn't a good thing.

If you want to focus on discoverability or relevancy. do that!

@Gargron @trwnh @dansup Plus I've been asking for the ability to add "community or sister instances" into the local timetime.

I'd love to be able to show all posts by all Australian instances in the same place... That would help the discoverability issue for me 1000%

I'd love to find a way to connect multiple instances that share a common trait together.

but I haven't seen any movement in supporting anything close to that. The focus on the major monoliths is a real heartbreaker.

@Gargron @trwnh @dansup I guess what I'm saying is DO BOTH

Offer the wildwest timetime (and local timeline) and do whatever is required to grow the user base.

Technically, isn't the federated timeline on my small instance, just a representation of all of the accounts all of the users on my instance follow? so in theory if they're not following trash, it should be clean enough and relatable to my users?

+ I mean I've previously used relays just to get more of that trash into my federated feed

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