Hiked the loop around Bond Falls in Michigan today. The air was 92°F / 33° C. The water was significantly colder.

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@dap6000 I stepped into Lake Ontario yesterday, in what's now a heat warning, and the water was cold enough to hurt.
People were full-on in it because they were out of their minds.

@reay Some folks take the kids swimming in the lakes here in Eagle River as early as May when the water is still below 40 degrees. I have to remind myself that the polar bear plunge is also something some folks do up here. None for me thanks.

@dap6000 Agreed. And as I get older, I find myself getting more intolerant of cold (he says, still living in Toronto, where it gets to -40C at times in the winter).

I took my wife to California for her late year birthday (and to propose) a dozenish years back, thinking it would be a nice, warm getaway for us. Only to find our romantic walk on the beach ruined by the water hurting my feet it was so cold.

Evidently California coast water = cold in winter months.

Lesson learned.

@reay @dap6000 Toronto gets to -40°!? I lived there for a couple of years and sort of missed having any serious winter. When did it get *that* cold, and how many million people died?

@zudlig @dap6000 It's not common (-30C, though...), but it does happen. There are often some deaths of people unfortunately caught outside, but millions, not so much.

Yeah, Toronto gets brutally cold in winter (which I increasingly dislike as I age) and brutally hot/humid in the summer (which I've never handled well). I have family living on Canada's west coast--much more temperate there--and they don't understand why we continue to live here.

I can't say I ever have a great answer for them.

@reay @dap6000 According to some random web site, the coldest temperature recorded in the city was -33°, and that was in 1859. It did get well into the -20s once in a while when I was there, but never much colder than that... ah.... I think you must be talking "wind chill" rather than °C. An entirely different unit of measure.

It never really felt that cold to me, but then I grew up in the kind of family where we all went out cross-country skiing the one time it hit -45° just to see what it was like. (It was pretty cold.)

@zudlig @dap6000 Yes, apologies for not being clear, I was speaking in terms of wind chill, which is goddamn vicious.
Toronto has wind chill in winter and humidex (kind of the opposite: How hot it feels owing to high humidity) in the summer. The best of both terrible worlds!

@reay @zudlig
Eagle River is further north than Toronto so I can relate. Anchorage Alaska is often (but not always!) warmer than us in the winters. And we still also get 90+° F days with high humidity. Maybe I _should_ move somewhere coastal. :D

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