i'm not gung-ho about UBI anymore, but i will say this: you will not understand UBI until you understand the difference between work and employment

the same goes for any actual post-capitalist economy, as well: work is not the same thing as employment. there is plenty of work that never gets done because nobody's employing people to do it

remove *employment* from the list of things you need to survive, and you'll see a lot more *work* get done

any economic system that assumes most people don't intrinsically want to do meaningful work is empirically false and should not be taken seriously

"yeah but people are lazy and don't want to work unless we threaten them" — this myth originates from shitty employers, whom nobody wants to work for


@amydentata Something I've found makes a lot of pro-capitalists hella uncomfortable is to talk about people who love doing 'gross' or undervalued jobs like cleaning or childcare.

My housemate loves cleaning; they find it soothing to have a clean living space, and it's good exercise. What they hate about *working* as a cleaner is entirely to do with the instability and the shitty treatment by management.

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