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apps that need push notifications get problems: Google wants to force all apps on to use its proprietary service Firebase for push notifications.
That's why we need F-Droid and/or based smartphone OS without Google.

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@datenteiler It seems it's time to get back to granny phones, without Android.

@datenteiler It is just a matter of time, the #librem5 and the #PinePhone are behind the corner...

@datenteiler Why is this going around now? This is pretty old news. Not that it's not important, it's one of the main challenges for a FOSS Android usage, but still pretty weird

@Matter
Okay, didn't know that this one is pretty old. For me it was new. Thank you for the info.

@datenteiler Librem 5 and Pinephone look promising, but we'll never know until they actually release a finished product.

For now Custom ROMs like LineageOS are as close as we can get.

@stefka @sailfishosnews
I like pretty much. And despite Sailfish is mostly , unfortunately, it has added closed-source components afaik. Hope they will fix this in the near future.

@succfemboi @datenteiler there's a project/initiative led by @Bubu, one of the current main people working on F-Droid: prototypefund.de/project/open- and gitlab.com/foss-push/planning

This will require major cooperation with for example the Matrix project, Nextcloud, etc to get it off the ground.

@succfemboi @Matter @Bubu @datenteiler I don't work on Charisma so I don't have any opinions on it.
@succfemboi @Bubu @Matter @datenteiler however charisma is probably useful for building an alternative to GCM. part of why it exists is to allow for alternatives to GCM.

@succfemboi
@Tutanota for example is using SSE (Server Sent Events). And afaik is @Mastodon using SSE to update their timeline in real time, too.

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