it's also pretty wild to jump to conclusions, state them as fact, and then call me a liar when reality conflicts.
but this is the kf MO. and again, it just serves the spectacle: it forces me to dispute half a dozen things before i can even get a fresh word in
this is not the behavior of someone seeking the truth
@eevee That's the tactic. They use all of that shit as a red herring diversion so that you're forced to engage with whatever they're saying, and that gives them ample time to continue pulling BS from the air.
If you ignore it, then you're "proving them right".
If you fight it, you're giving them more ammo to keep the argument going forever.
There is no winning. That's how these people argue, and they don't even consciously realize they're doing it.
I live with people who do this.
@eevee It's a very cleverly designed method of "debate"- the sole purpose is to maintain this arbitrary status quo where the person is "correct and right" and make it nearly impossible to change that. They can trap you in a corner with an endless stream of fallacies.
The problem is that this has become such a mainstream and accepted form of debate that other people will accept and enable it, siding with the person just because they've been conditioned to think arguments work like that
@deltaryz JESUS this took an alarming turn at the end
@eevee my dad regularly watches everything from fox news to alex jones to actual alien conspiracy theorists in the living room on a daily basis. He's like the textbook example of a toxic conservative.
I've learned that arguing with him is a lost cause, and only leaves a trail of suffering. I avoid any conversations with him if I can help it.
My mom isn't bad but she ignores and therefore enables it.
@eevee You and Glip are *really* in these fuckers minds, huh? I can't imagine what it must feel like, to have that sort of power, but I hope you use it responsibly.
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