definitely a weird phenomenon with mastodon is "you make a few of our users uncomfortable, so we're suspending you from our instance"

why don't... those users... block us themselves. like. i don't understand the impetus to forcibly remove someone who's minding their own business from your /entire community/

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@eevee Scared admins with little experience, maybe some of them may be convinced as well

@lyliawisteria counterpoint: i've been suspended from an instance i'd otherwise /never heard of/

@lyliawisteria what if some of the hundreds of people on that instance wanted to follow me? just saying it's weird to make that decision for all of them when i'd never interacted with the instance before

@eevee Because some admins feel more responsible for their users comfort and safety than others. Especially in a small community where admins do more to set the tone.

@eevee Blocking people and instances is good, imho. Comfort and safety are important and no one owes me an audience.

@ghost_bird deciding which people are uncomfortable for hundreds of others is kind of weird to me i guess. especially with the generally goofy way instance blocks seem to work

@eevee Iโ€™m OK with a pro-active admin as long as theyโ€™re transparent about what theyโ€™re doing. And if I donโ€™t like their approach then I can move or start my own instance - there are lots of ways to run a community and itโ€™s good to have a diverse mix.

@eevee It strikes me that the real difference of opinion is about power and perceived threat. If youโ€™re more worried about admins abusing their power then youโ€™ll incline one way and if youโ€™re more worried about power-seekers accumulating social capital then youโ€™ll incline the other. Though both worries are entirely reasonable and legitimate, of course.

@eevee mastodon admins kinda act like IRC ops
if someone's bugging some users, then the ops might ban them

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