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When Lena Headey was saying NotLikeThis, it was actually an editor's note on the episode's script that she read as her lines by accident

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This episode was absolute trash. Absolute garbage. I'm laughing my ass off about how bad it was.

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@Gargron no kidding, most of the character decisions made no sense. Why would Arya get all the way into the Red Keep just to turn around? Why would Danerys destroy the whole city *after* they surrendered? Why the hell did Euron attack Jamie? Why would Jamie spend 7 seasons on one of the greatest character arcs in TV history just to go back to Cersei and die with her???????

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@bwhaines @Gargron I can see some answers to almost all those questions. May I?

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@eldelacajita Go for it. Pretty much all the explanations around Dany are just saying "they've been hinting at it", but every other time she did or talked about doing crazy tyrannical stuff she felt like she was serving some greater good. Here she just... wasn't. Am I missing something?

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@bwhaines Well, first of all, I think GoT is not so much about one-way character arcs, but about people with complex motivations and ambiguous behavior. They drag bright/dark sides of their personality around and rarely get totally rid of either of them.

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@bwhaines For example, Jamie's arc was more like a bumpy ride. A struggle between honor on one side (Brienne) and sick love on the other (Cersei). Along the show, he is constantly improving on the former, but also drowning miserably on the latter. Being stupidly driven by his relationship with Cersei. "The things I do for love", indeed, until the end.

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@bwhaines His relationship with Brienne ranges from initial fight to respect and to a kind of honorable love, from knight to knight. But after they, both drunk, mix that relationship with "sensual" love, he discovers he just can't stop being (almost literally) crazy for Cersei. I was more surprised and disappointed by him going to bed with Brienne, honestly. And I expected him to kill Cersei in the end, but dying together, as they were born, kinda makes sense too.

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@bwhaines The thing is, characters don't just change in GoT. They change their behavior, but are still tied to their origins and traumas. Look at Arya. From a little Stark girl, she almost truly becomes "no one", risking her own identity for vengeance. But then the Stark in her wins. For the last two seasons she becomes as Stark as can be. A true support for Sansa and the family. And in this last season even becomes again the scared girl she also is.

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@bwhaines She is reflected by the Hound, almost becoming like him when she leaves Winterfell. The Hound walks towards self destruction, but in that last conversation he confronts her with her duality, with a choice she actually CAN make, unlike him: the ruthless, lonely killer, or the Stark girl. She sees how everything is falling on top of Cersei and everyone, makes a choice, and then gets deeply submerged into the horrors caused by war and revenge.

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@bwhaines As for Daenerys, it's not only they have been "hinting". It's that the character has always been authoritarian, merciless and driven by ONE goal: to claim the throne. It's the only thing she had, along with a constant reminder for "not becoming her father". She believed she could do better, but the truth is her counselors have always been struggling to 'tame' her down.

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@bwhaines In the two last seasons, it all falls apart:
1. She discovers that her right to the throne isn't true.
2. She discovers her lover is actually the true heir.
3. She realizes she is not loved by the people in Westeros, while Jon is.
4. Her counselors have died, fallen apart or betrayed her, from her POV.
5. Her most true friends, Missandei and Jorah, are dead.
6. The only love that could tie her to some hope and redemption in Westeros, Jon, can't love her anymore.

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@bwhaines Oh, and...

7. She has already lost 2 dragons, her 'sons'.

So her "good" side is almost burned down, but her ruthless side remains the same. Conclusion: if there is no love to save her...

"All right then. Let it be fear."

She just doesn't care about the bells nor the people anymore. They won't love her. They represent her failure in becoming what she expected. She just can't bear with that.

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@bwhaines So she ends up sinking back into what she tried to avoid. With no more hope or true purpose left, she becomes her darkest self: her father. She fulfills his "burn them all!" cry, and her dragon fire and her father's wildfire, together, destroy her dream and the city.

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@bwhaines As for Euron... yeah, I don't get that one either 😂 That situation seemed too random, even forced.

Still, that fight helps proving Jaime's devotion for Cersei (he only engages when Euron says "I f*cked her"), and Euron dies stupidly as the crazy, reckless, cocky rockstar he is.

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@bwhaines I'm not saying I agree with everything they did, and I certainly didn't expect things to go this way. But they couldn't meet everyone's (often wild) reasoning and expectations.

The worst thing to me is that the whole season feels forced, artificially accelerated, like too many things crammed together in too few episodes.

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@eldelacajita I definitely agree on this season feeling rushed, and I think that's a large part of my frustrations. If they had given a little more time to show Jamie's slipping back into his old ways and Dany's capacity for going ballistic it would have been much smoother. Clearly they're capable of it, because other character arcs like Sansa and Varys were handled beautifully. They just seemed to jump the gun on a lot of character development.

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