@fla if you head over to the Telegram Group, where our devs and community hang out, someone will point you in the right direction. t.me/ubports
I love the UBports project, but there's something that annoys the hell out of me, and it's its reliance on Telegram for communications. As far as I understand Telegram, you have no choice but to create an account on some remote server using your telephone number. The server-side software is closed-source and managed by a for-profit company. My telephone number is deeply personal, why should I trust some company with it? How can your project justify this with its security goals?
@ubports @normandc @fla it’s also worth pointing out that all our social media, Instagram, Twitter, Mastodon, PixelFed and all our web building and blog posts are done by volunteers who give their time to the project for free. The social platforms are not scaled for one on one support. The forum and Telegram is the best place for one on one support. If you don’t like Telegram use the Forum. I think we do a pretty good job seeings we don’t actually make any money and provide a mobile OS for free!
@ernmander This is completely besides the point. I have 10 years of contributions to open source projects. I've been part of wiki admin teams for 2 separate projects, Ubuntu-fr and FreeCAD. I know what volunteer work is, I've dedicated thousands of hours of my time. I wanted to contribute to UBports doc but coordination is through Telegram. Nobody discusses the doc on the forum. You guys always tell users to go to Telegram for help. This is incomprehensible to me.
@normandc @fla @ernmander we have 2450 people in our Telegram group contributing every day. We suggest people go to the telegram group as they will get one on one support from the devs that hang out in the group all day. If you want to contribute I will ask if there is any other way other than the Forum
@povoq if you head into the Telegram group you should find the person responsible for setting all that up for us. The link is here t.me/ubports thank you for the request :)
@normandc @ubports @fla we only suggest people go to Telegram as that is where our devs hang out all day and will give you a quicker and more in depth answer. If you want to contribute but don’t want to use Telegram or the Forum I can ask the team if there is another method that just you can use. We’ve made it easy for people to communicate with us via many channels. But we are not scaled to do one on one support via the social media channels.
@ernmander @ubports @fla
Once again you talk about one on one support which, I repeat once again, is not what I am arguing about. Coordination between contributors is essential, and as proven it is done on Telegram, *not on the forum*. A person willing to contribute *and coordinate with others* has *no choice* but to join your Telegram groups. One who's not is completely cut out.
Anyway, I'm giving up, I feel that it is a waste of time trying to argue my point with you.
Server run by the main developers of the project It is not focused on any particular niche interest - everyone is welcome as long as you follow our code of conduct!