New US visa online application now requires you to enter all your social media presences when you apply for a visa:
@fribbledom new? It has Vine and Google+ on there.
Well, you may still have used it within the last five years, and - don't worry - they certainly got a backup of Google+ somewhere in Utah 😂
someone says it's optional…
Anyone read the fineprint?
It's all over the press and any search machine would give you these results, but alas here's me doing it for you 😉
@fribbledom Joke's on you, I don't have Twitter or Facebook. Only Mastodon.
Well, that's certainly highly suspicious 😆
@fribbledom I must be a terrorist, right?
For all we know that just makes you extra suspicious 😉
@fribbledom ...well, yeah.
> no Mastodon
> no Pleroma
> no GNU Social
this is biased
Ugh, that rules me out of visiting :o
Not that I had concrete plans tho
@fribbledom I notice that Mastodon and MeWe are not in the list. I don't have a problem sharing my LinkedIn, as I'm probably traveling for business anyway, but the rest of the list is seriously intrusive. Also, how are they going to know if you leave one off the list?
1. You do $X that gets their attention
2. Putting you in prison for doing $X, but it's difficult
3. They use their surveillence aparatus to find your socnets
4. They check your visa application. If you happen to omit one of the socnets, they can put you in prison for lying at customs, which saves them a lot of hassle.
@fribbledom what the fuck.
@fribbledom scary. I knew the day would come.
This is one of the reasons why I never use my real name on social media.
@fribbledom Awful website design though.
@fribbledom Wonderful, I guess I'll never got to the US anymore 😄 Who wants to go to a country where they treat you like a potential criminal all the way through?
@fribbledom The funny thing is that I think that the consequences of this are exactly the contrary of what the intend. It's like Laozi says:
The more laws and restrictions there are,
The poorer people become.
The sharper men's weapons,
The more trouble in the land.
The more ingenious and clever men are,
The more strange things happen.
The more rules and regulations,
The more thieves and robbers.
And yet, while oppression grows, the UN does nothing. They talk, and talk, and talk, but they do nothing to help those suffering.
We're on our own here...
Probably a good idea ...
@fribbledom What would they say if you don't have any they list? Like Mastodon or diaspora*?
Probably that you deserve to go on the "extra-suspicious" list.
@fribbledom Good thing I am already an American citizen, so I don't have to get a visa. 😉 Otherwise I might get a notice that my visa was denied due to "lack of social media representation". 😂
if i don't tell them about my facebook account which isn't in my real name anyway, how can they tell?
You've probably get enough metadata links pointing to it. Besides claiming not to have a Facebook profile probably just puts you on the "extra-suspicious" list.
@fribbledom I can't get that site to open. This is beyond ESTA?
@waltercool The text says “used” but it wants your handle. I’m not sure what that means if you delete that account and the handle isn’t yours anymore...
So, before applying, keep your accounts hidden as possible like temporal close or renamed with info shuffled, do not declare them, get approval, reopen.
Even if some social networks may be impossible to disappear, you can make their life difficult trying to discover and find you.
@fribbledom This is some 1984 bullshit.
@fribbledom Apparently the US Gov't doesn't know Google+ went away.
They probably do, they still require you to enter anything you've used in the past 5 years. You know, just in case they have a backup of Google+ somewhere in Utah 😉
Jokes on them I don't see anything decentralized on there
This is why I have carefully curated LinkedIn and Twitter accounts.
@fribbledom Does it force you to enter one?
And what if the social network is for example Mastodon?
@fribbledom not great
Be sure to enter the G+ info they want
@fribbledom So the day has finally come...
Really makes you wonder what this is supposed to be useful for. Let's assume it is not to check whether individuals are dangerous or involved in crimes because no one would be moronic enough to provide such incriminating info in an online visa form.
Also, assuming that the US govt isn't paying an army of people reading social media feeds of applicants, we can assume they just match it against an existing database of ranked user profiles...
Well, then all there forms would be null and void. This is a legal trick: if they can prove you lied on the form, it's a lot easier to handle your case.
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