@fribbledom only "social" media i use is whatsapp, and every convs. i had is on it. So i guess i just have to swallow what it offers.

@fribbledom One might ask how is it possible for Whatsapp to share messages that should be encrypted...

@fribbledom @cirku17 they just upload them again after they are decrypted.

@rugk @fribbledom @cirku17
They are actually quite careful to always say "End-to-end" encryption, meaning it's encrypted on the way... but nothing stops them from infiltrating one of the end and reading the message before it's sent or after it's received. "Clever" marketing.

@cirku17 @fribbledom WhatApp swears that it is end-to-end encrypted and the server does not know the keys to decrypt it. Assuming that'd true, then the messages must be leaked either before it is encrypted or after it is decrypted in the app

"After all, if either user’s device is compromised, unbreakable encryption is of little relevance."
@trebach @fribbledom

Wouldn't it suffice if wa encrypted them with those agencies' public keys, in addition to the legit recipients'?

@pongrebio @fribbledom They don't care. Also they should encrypt with multiple keys (for the various agencies), on-device etc. It's simpler to just trick people and do whatever they want.

@fribbledom Not a chance--while that might be legal in the UK, it is not in the US. The reference to backdoors is only part of the intel community's propaganda war to weaken encryption. The cooperation refers to metadata and the like, not encrypted data.

@billblake2018 @fribbledom Legal or not, all it takes is one National Security letter for it to happen. Remember PRISM? They're circumventing the encryption, not putting a backdoor in the encryption algorithm

@fribbledom happy without it since 5 years...or is it more? 🤔😅


wcathcart (Will, Head of WhatsApp) denies it in this Hacker News discussion [ news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2 ]

@fribbledom not a Facebook fan but Bloomberg has a history of “interesting” tech reportage (eg their Big Hack story). Now Alex Stamos on Twitter is also pushing back on this story.

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