Why Mastodon and the fediverse are “doomed to fail”:
Wow. This toot apparently prompted several dozen of you to unfollow me 😆
To the rest of you:
Thanks for actually reading the article instead of falling for that headline, not noticing the inverted commas, and then jumping to conclusions! You people are why I love the Fediverse so much 😊
"The revolution will put you in the driver's seat"
I love it.
@fribbledom learned about the significance of the inverted commas only by reading this piece.
reading the headline: 😒
reasing the article: 😏
Yeah, the inverted commas are important ;-)
how about calling 'W' 'double U'? ;)
@s_ol In our modern typography W looks more like a double V, but all three letters (U, V, W) evolved from the same Semitic sign.
So, no, I have no problem calling that letter a "double U".
@fribbledom The only bad thing about this article is the title.
Note the inverted commas 😄
@fribbledom Whoooops ! 😅
@fribbledom Interestingly, if you apply the same logic then email was "doomed to fail" as well. Yet for business it's still *the* prevalent form of communication online. Less so for private individuals, now we have Signal, WhatsApp, etc. I have hope, in a World that's waking up to what surveillance capitalism really means, that the idea of running your own Twitter, or being on a Twitter you trust, will appeal more and more to "normal people". 😊
@shuro @fribbledom My bad, s/standard/system ... it's an open SYSTEM. Anyone can join in. Sure, there's G Suite, MS, etc. But people are also free to choose ProtonMail, for example, and many do. Or you could run your own mail server. All of which is not possible if you want to participate on Facebook without using their API/website. I'm not sure where you're going with this? Gmail exists, so Mastodon must fail?
@fribbledom I had read that "article" a while back; gave me a good chuckle.
@BrokenBiscuit @fribbledom You are thinking about a different article. :) This is a freshly written article by @eloquence, and if you take a good look at the title, you'll see that it's actually saying the exact opposite of what the article you're thinking of was saying.
Or better yet, just take a few minutes to read it. It's worth it. Will brighten your day, trust me. :)
@Mayana Ah I saw the "Why mastodon is failing" line and remembered the article from I think either ars techinica or verge, predicting its downfall
@BrokenBiscuit I've read that article, too. And I agree it was pretty funny. But it didn't have any inverted commas in the title. ;)
Oh yeah, I'm ”definitely gonna watch this”.
@fribbledom to each…
Frankly I didn't even bother to read this article before thanks to it's headline _until_ you referenced it too.
I guess it was one share too much to simply ignore it and now I'm glad I read it.
Whoever wrote it.
@fribbledom So it is true, but not for the reasons we thought it would be. Anyway, Mastodon and the Fediverse are obviously a product of our time...everybody may draw their own conclusion from that.
@fribbledom The followers are in the content, not the headline. 😉
@fribbledom headlines matter is the other lesson from this excellent article
This is actually one of the things wrong with mainstream news sites. News headlines are written by an editor, who probably only skimmed the article. They often miss the central point or an important nuance. Most people only read headlines and therefore have a distorted view of current events.
@fribbledom Even if there were no inverted commas.. I'd think it's silly to unfollow someone just because of different opinions. If everyone agrees on everything, there's no new to be learnt in the world.
@gaab @fribbledom That kinda assumes that "different opinions" (in this instance, the apostrophes indicate a non-sarcastic quote) is the reason for the unfollow, rather than "clickbaity toots" (in this instance, the apostrophes are used to demarcate the reason from the rest of the sentence to improve clarity). An assumption I wouldn't want to make.
I think the error is already in assuming that
1: the person sharing an article automatically agrees with everything in the article
2: predicting difficult times for Mastodon was the same thing as discouraging people from using it.
I didn't notice the quotes but read the article because I wanted to know which obstacles the author was seeing, whether if I found the arguments compelling, and if I saw ways to overcome them. I'm a bit disappointed, actually.
I think the point about #OpenSource alternatves is that they're there operating beside and discretely of the proprietary stuff... They're not subject to the same forces at all. And whilst open source might grow more slowly, it will exist and
grow so long as there's a need for the service it provides.
@fribbledom LOL, at least it was a good way of eliminating the chaff from your timeline, eh? 😉 Pretty decent post. I can't say that all mainstream media poopoos the fediverse. I've heard Leo on TWiT (surprisingly) talk about Mastodon (TWiT has an instance up), Linux, Jitsi, and other, more open platforms. It's just that everyone else that ends up there, from those same media sites that just don't bother (as mentioned in the article), don't care.
@fribbledom it's you writing that headline/sharing that headline...of course i gotta check...even though i bookmark and forget usually but not this time...total clickbait success!
Obviously a lot of micro bloggers aren't members of second degree irony teammate and probably they didn't even read your article.
Perhaps this title less allusive?
Why Mastodon and the fediverse should be "doomed to fail”
🙏 Pretty good paper indeed!
@fribbledom Wow, unfollowing someone because of one single toot that they didn't even bother to double-check?
Well, I suppose I'll just have to follow you then, to try to balance it out!
@fribbledom It was clickbait. Masto isn't going anywhere, but its funny that the author decries capitalism so much. It built the tech he's using to whine about it.
@fribbledom I'm always slow, but yes, it was a good read.
@fribbledom Well it caused me to follow you :)
@fribbledom nah, going to unfollow for IPv6
@fribbledom but as a positive exception from that rule: Podcasts are thriving also the concept was also non-profit from the start.
@fribbledom I remember when the internet first started, it seemed like the perfect place for co-ops and sharing economies to develop. I’m still hopeful that will happen, and fediverse could be part of that.
might as well quit using it now.
you can’t talk of failure before of defining failure. Nevertheless, the definition of “failure” I foresee in this post would sound so ridiculous, the post would die….
@fribbledom I like to think we're all failures here, but in the nicest possible way.
(Good article, btw. Now to somehow persuade F&F to join me here...)
@fribbledom not disappointed at all! :P impressed by my new favorite set of lines... "If something doesn't generate profit, has no obvious pathway to profit, and isn't backed by people who are viewed as experts on making profit, it is assumed to be a failure by default."
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