These days everyone seems to be rather busy being anti-this and anti-that and anti-everything-in-between.
You know what? I'd rather people tell me what they actually stand *for*, not everything they are *against*.
@fribbledom I stand for helping with open source projects, to name some Qubes-OS & GrapheneOS. If I can't help - I donate.
Thank you for all your contributions! ❤️
@fribbledom I feel that, but over time I've learned that some people have trouble verbalizing what they like and why. At least if folks overdo the anti-stuff you can avoid them...at least that's what I do anyway >_>
@fribbledom The one that do that don't stand for anything. That's why they are anti everything. I stand for my God and my country.
@aurochs you're meant to say pro choice. But human beanz are strange there seems to be a high correlation with those who are anti-abortion who are also pro death penalty. I was told it was because amurkans want black kids to be born to single parents given no opportunities in life and then be put to death when they get to 18 unless a cop kills them first. But hey human beanz we appear to be related. @Darngood @fribbledom
@DesCoutinho @Darngood @fribbledom I said pro-abortion to highlight the irony (such as anti-killing etc). I definitely am pro choice. To many people ideas come in packages and being anti-choice is in the conservative package with death penalty.
Beyond semantics, it is still easier to be destructive and hateful than constructive and accepting.
@aurochs Yeah I remember being 16 and having some teacher ask me to defend an idea can't remember what it was now. But it involved the teacher making fun of my defence to the class. Teachers eh. It's a lot easier to take down an ideology because none seem perfect. I think teach agreed at the end of the laughter that if he tried to defend any position it would be a lot harder for him. I would argue that these things are more about habit. Virtue that is. @Darngood @fribbledom
I am *for*...
- supporting small brands/vendors
- DIY for cost saving, and personal satisfaction
- doing things the **hard** way
@fribbledom I'm pro-socialism!
@fribbledom I feel the same way. Constructive visions for our future are key.
@fribbledom I'm for
and by extension, or, as motivation
- making sure everyone gets food & housing
- making sure earth sustains life
@nickchuckwalter @Parnikkapore @fribbledom this is a question I've been thinking about a lot recently esp. in the context of police terrorism. I've been reading prison abolition texts and learning about transformative justice, here's a resource collection on that (can't vouch for everything there): https://transformharm.org/
@nickchuckwalter anarchy involves abolishing unjust/oppressive hierarchies, and communism involves collectively owning the ability to make and distribute stuff. So reincorporating a company as a worker-owned co-op is a move in the anarchocommunist direction, workplace democracy can be... in general finding ways around Capital and the State to meet people's needs and empower the 99% ^_^
@amsomniac so is it like people form these groups organically. Like it’s not part of the government right?
@nickchuckwalter exactly, the idea is a basically a commune of communes, at least, the way I see it. I think reading Murray Bookchin's The Next Revolution and then of course the Communist Manifesto in order set me to this way of thinking
@fribbledom I stand for free software, open hardware, and open firmware.
@fribbledom a bit hard for cybertech types. the proper default is to block all then permit selectively.
@fribbledom Much love friend. It starts with you.
@fribbledom No, I'm not an "anti" person. I'm *for* locking up all those people who don't agree with me.
See, it's much more positive when you say it like that.
@fribbledom so you're telling me you're anti-anti
@fribbledom I'm pro think for yourself and open source projects
@fribbledom I’m pro-abortion!
Wait no, this was supposed to be positive and uplifting.
@fribbledom they're afraid of being ostracized by the people who are anti that thing.
@fribbledom like, I stopped talking about my love of car driving and racing around modern urban people because it's usually not long until I'm getting a feeling as if I'm being considered as participating in a genocide…
@fribbledom Things I'm for:
Science! Not just the wondrous conclusions, but the painstaking details, methods, and the people who figured them out
The wonderful and tragic endeavors of formal logicians
Art and its ability to be fun, thoughtful, and/or able to cause us to exist in new ways
Respect and aloha for people who are respectful to you
Wearing a mask in public in a pandemic
Getting enough sleep
Regularly keeping up with the people you know, especially since regular life has been disrupted
Seeing the best in a sincere effort
@fribbledom I stand for the power of public key cryptography to give us a foolproof and easy way to assert our own authority without the need for central powers and organizations. I stand for anarchy and a sensible avoidance of hierarchy wherever possible. I stand for the importance of friendship, camradery and actually giving significant aid to your friends, which many times is only possible when friends are living nearby. I stand for our right to have a childhood we can look fondly back on. In summary, I’m very supportive of any effort to ensure that nobody like me ever has to exist again.
Wait shit that was supposed to be positive and uplifting too.
@fribbledom I am generally for public ownership, in which “public” doesn't mean “run by the government” but instead is generally democratic - by and for the people. I don't consider governments to be operating in the interests of the people in most cases, and that voting for the correct candidate is not a solution.
Public ownership of software, public access to knowledge, public ownership of land and housing. Public ownership of the things we need to live: food, electricity, water, health care.
From this basic disposition a lot of other things logically follow, such as disliking hierarchies and large centralised organisations.
@fribbledom ah, but stating what you’re *for* opens you up to attack and straw man arguments!
(I’m only half-joking)
@fribbledom I'm for breakfast and coffee.
Yes, I've low standards (in the morning) 😜
@bekopharm Then here, have a coffee ☕
@fribbledom are you a barber ?
@fribbledom I stand for peace and quiet and heavy metal.
@fribbledom I stand for bacon, FOSS, and sometimes my friends.
I am for honesty and challenging my own views. I am for socialism and eating the rich. I am for public code for public money.
Reason, life, freedom
I'm pro a healthy balance between consensus and dissensus. As you rightly point out, there is a worrying skew towards the latter.
That's probably due to loss aversion: people focus more on avoiding things that could worsen their situation than on things that could improve it.
I'm superduper in favour of (myself and everyone else) understanding the human mind better so I can deal with humans better. Partially because I find humans hard to deal with otherwise, and partially because I think it'd help everyone get along better.
Also in favour of people getting along. And problem-solving. Problem-solving rules.
Oh, here's something I'm in favour of:
People courageous enough to risk government retaliation in order to do the right thing, according to scientific consensus *and* human compassion.
I'm also super against people ignoring both of these and arguing based on some ideology or other.
That guy deserves a medal -- and a law not just legalizing but mandating such services.
@fribbledom I think most of my anti can just be summarized as anti capitalist and the things I stand for are a much longer list o.o many of the things I stand for are things that will undoubtedly lead to me standing against other things, and that’s more of where things start to devolve
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