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@LydiaConwell

I guess I would call this particular example a bar chart as there are no interrelations or connections among two or more things here.

@fribbledom
I don't think there's a strict nomenclature. When I hear "graph", I expect an x/y curve plot (that's what you use graphing paper for). Informatics/mathematics people might expect boxes and arrows (related to graph theory), but it's a *graph*ical representation of stuff, where geometry represents information, so it's totally fine by me.
@LydiaConwell

@fribbledom @LydiaConwell
Yes, that was my vague memory of explanation I heard in class some 30 years back!!
So, #daydreaming out of the window must be a memory aid! #whoknew

@adinfinitum I used to daydream a lot at school. I kinda want to see all the teachers who used to tell me off and tell them I only did it because their lessons were so boring.

@loke

See thread. Mind you: I know virtually nothing about the actual definition of the word "graph" 😂

@fribbledom @loke 🤷‍♂️ I would most definitely call this a graph.

@kev @fribbledom it's not a mathematical graph. But that matter little in the real world. If we all used mathematical language, then you are not making a knot when you tie your shoes.

@loke @kev @fribbledom I don't know about mathematicians, but to sailors and boy scouts your shoes are tied using a reef knot with twin bights.
Ok, now I know about mathematicians and honestly this is on them and their spherical cows.

> In mathematics, a knot is an embedding of a topological circle S¹ in 3-dimensional Euclidean space, R³, considered up to continuous deformations. A crucial difference between the standard mathematical and conventional notions of a knot is that mathematical knots are closed—there are no ends to tie or untie on a mathematical knot.

@kev @fribbledom @loke i think graph is another word for a network, if you are a math nerd and pedant. so, chart

@fribbledom :blobwave:

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as a graph, is in fact, a plot, or as I've recently taken to calling it, gnuplot.

@fribbledom @irl gnuplot is in fact not a GNU project. It's not even GNU licensed.

@fribbledom

From it's FAQ:

"gnuplot is not related to the GNU project or the FSF in any but the most peripheral sense. Our software was designed completely independently and the name "gnuplot" was actually a compromise. I wanted to call it "llamaplot" and Colin wanted to call it "nplot." [...] I decided that "gnuplot" would make a nice pun and after a fashion Colin agreed."

gnuplot.info/faq/index.html#x1

@loke @irl

@fribbledom >A bar chart or bar graph is a chart or graph that presents categorical data with rectangular bars with heights or lengths proportional to the values that they represent. The bars can be plotted vertically or horizontally. A vertical bar chart is sometimes called a column chart.
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_chart

I would accept it being called a graph, plot, or chart, but specifically saying that it's *not* a graph doesn't seem quite right. I don't work with a lot of graphs, though, so if this is something where a lot of people get it wrong and it's a pet peeve of graph-users, then I'm willing to change my mind.

@fribbledom It is a graph. Just not a particularly useful graph. ;)

@fribbledom at least it’s not a pie chart. Visualization snobs really hate those. 😁

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