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The Arch experience:

1. Update entire system
2. Reboot with new kernel
3. New updates available!

...and I actually love it for that 🤗

@fribbledom I run my router on Arch, and really wish it supported ksplice, but I have my boot to internet access time down to under 2 minutes

@fribbledom echo 'yay -Syu && reboot' >> /etc/local.d/harsh-linux.start

(Yes local.d is OpenRC not systemd, I know)

@fribbledom If I may ask -- what is the net advantage of having an Arch system? Is it because the sw is better and you have more control? Thanks for explaining 🎇

@Eidon @fribbledom Packages are mostly vanilla afaik (aren't modified by distro maintainers), AUR is nice, rolling release means you get updates faster, and of course Arch wiki is awesome.

@Eidon

Advantages:

- rolling release
- simplicity of its package management
- AUR repository for user-contributed packages
- you configure your system to your needs, the system gets out of your way
- its wiki

Disadvantages:

- if you fuck up, you fuck up

@fribbledom
Although fucking up is something which can be undone with the help of the wiki most of the time.
A friend of mine installed arch many years ago and has been mirroring the installation on new devices since then, which required very little work so far (at least that is what he told me).
@Eidon

@daniel

Oh yeah, absolutely. I had been using the same base Arch install for more than 10 years at some point.

@Eidon

@fribbledom @daniel
Many thanks -- I understand!
Wonderful, though a little scaring too, if you're not an expert ^_^'

@fribbledom I haven't had a worse repairing experience with ArchLinux than on other distros, quite the other way around

@Eidon @fribbledom Newer software versions, no major version reinstalls since it’s a rolling release, and not having to compile everything like Gentoo.

The software is probably not better since it’s much more raw then say something like RHEL/CentOS.

@fribbledom With Manjaro I actually had updates very rarely, while with Kubuntu it's like, sometimes every day I have updates available.

(Of course, that's because the Manjaro updates were massive and partial updates are not supported, while with Ubuntu every little thing updates whenever it feels like it).

@fribbledom I don’t use Pamac or anything with a reminder on mine, so I just update the system manually once a day (on the morning, after having booted it up) and that’s it. If new updates appear later, they will wait until the next day.

@fribbledom well you are missing the step about the excitement to figure out if it boots or not

@fribbledom I just wish they would fix their kernel management, so I don't have to reboot after a kernel upgrade to be able to use my USB devices again 🙄
Also, if the kernel breaks something, I have to go out of my way to boot from the install drive, revert the kernel, instead of just selecting the previous version in the boot manager..

@fribbledom But this only fixes the my first gripe with it. The fact that I have no fallback version is still a bit annoying.

@fribbledom Part of me wants to setup my install to update on shutdown.

@fribbledom How often are you updating to see this o.O

I try to keep my updates weekly, know some people who keep it monthly.

@piokozi

When I'm a bit bored, I sometimes update my system several times a day 😆

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