The Arch experience:
1. Update entire system
2. Reboot with new kernel
3. New updates available!
...and I actually love it for that 🤗
@fribbledom that's the exact reason I stay with Manjaro.
@fribbledom I run my router on Arch, and really wish it supported ksplice, but I have my boot to internet access time down to under 2 minutes
@fribbledom echo 'yay -Syu && reboot' >> /etc/local.d/harsh-linux.start
(Yes local.d is OpenRC not systemd, I know)
@fribbledom If I may ask -- what is the net advantage of having an Arch system? Is it because the sw is better and you have more control? Thanks for explaining 🎇
Advantages:
- rolling release
- simplicity of its package management
- AUR repository for user-contributed packages
- you configure your system to your needs, the system gets out of your way
- its wiki
Disadvantages:
- if you fuck up, you fuck up
@fribbledom @daniel
Many thanks -- I understand!
Wonderful, though a little scaring too, if you're not an expert ^_^'
@fribbledom I haven't had a worse repairing experience with ArchLinux than on other distros, quite the other way around
@Eidon @fribbledom Newer software versions, no major version reinstalls since it’s a rolling release, and not having to compile everything like Gentoo.
The software is probably not better since it’s much more raw then say something like RHEL/CentOS.
@fribbledom With Manjaro I actually had updates very rarely, while with Kubuntu it's like, sometimes every day I have updates available.
(Of course, that's because the Manjaro updates were massive and partial updates are not supported, while with Ubuntu every little thing updates whenever it feels like it).
@fribbledom I don’t use Pamac or anything with a reminder on mine, so I just update the system manually once a day (on the morning, after having booted it up) and that’s it. If new updates appear later, they will wait until the next day.
@fribbledom well you are missing the step about the excitement to figure out if it boots or not
@fribbledom I just wish they would fix their kernel management, so I don't have to reboot after a kernel upgrade to be able to use my USB devices again 🙄
Also, if the kernel breaks something, I have to go out of my way to boot from the install drive, revert the kernel, instead of just selecting the previous version in the boot manager..
@fribbledom But this only fixes the my first gripe with it. The fact that I have no fallback version is still a bit annoying.
@fribbledom Sounds like Windows.
@fribbledom Part of me wants to setup my install to update on shutdown.
@fribbledom How often are you updating to see this o.O
I try to keep my updates weekly, know some people who keep it monthly.
When I'm a bit bored, I sometimes update my system several times a day 😆
@fribbledom
Ahahah, me too :)
@piokozi
@fribbledom 4. Nvidia drivers break it
Fuck #Nvidia
@fribbledom
Yes. Yes indeed. That's why I have a local mirror.