@vriska @fribbledom I read the title as “routine” as in “mundane”, “procedural” – as the HN thread related to this very blog post also points out, taking over a channel that reposts publicly available headlines is very petty and trivial (it’s not even an actual community that’s ‘worth’ stealing). Hence, someone abusing op powers in such a trivial situation indicates that they see the abuse as not a big deal, a routine matter. But pointing this out explicitly in the post might have been better.
@fribbledom I suspect he's going to keep a lot of fake channels registered even after their communities have moved on, just to keep up appearances and inflate the size of "his" network. I doubt it'll last forever, but it's still going to be a pain to deal with.
@Jessica @fribbledom tbh, i've yet to see a single viable replacement for irc. everything wants to be a slow and bloated web/mobile app, generally centralized commercial services, without any standardized protocols or real options for client software, and otherwise a lot fail at the most basic multi-user channel functionalities... unfortunately i haven't come across anything that's managed to provide all the same functionality and usability based on durable open standards.
@fribbledom Man abandons channel after a MONTH, Puts in notice that it abandoned and is surprised it's recycled. Is this abuse or stewardship?
Since the founder was online today, the abandonment counter is still one year in the future and potentially still being pushed forward.
So yes, it is surprising.
If you reboot your PC and forget to open a browser to your own website within 10 minutes, you wouldn't be surprised the domain registrar gave your domain name away before expiration?
@dissy614 @fribbledom I'm prepared to admit it's surprising. But I feel characterising it as 'abusive' is just pandering to drama fueld feeding frenzy going on. If I'd but a webpage up saying "This free web page that is owned by someone else is abandoned, I'm never coming back" Then I wouldn't be so surprised if the registrar took it back over, no.
@Baggypants @fribbledom so you the instant takeover and pretend-continuity, and removing the channel movement topic, are all just fine and dandy because technically there's a discretionary clause?
personally i'm maintaining presence to make sure the "this channel has moved to irc.libera.chat" topics remain intact and to help inform anyone who might need to know
@ze @fribbledom Yes if the channel has been advertised as abandoned after a month and only really existed for a bot in the first place, why not? Look, I'm not happy about the freenode situation, it's a disaster. But really this is like complaining that the janitor normally empties the bin on Friday and they came and did it on a Tuesday. Give it a couple of weeks and we'll have a big red flag the size of Japan to point at and say 'Told you Lee was a bastard'
@Baggypants @fribbledom well it was advertised as moved, and i think it should rightfully have remained as such for the normal duration, in accordance with its creators intent, regardless. but i can see how someone else might feel entitled in such circumstances, and agree it's a fairly minor point in the whole thing
no you just change your matrix configuration (homeserver.yaml) to accept guests.
# Allows users to register as guests without a password/email/etc, and
# participate in rooms hosted on this server which have been made
# accessible to anonymous users.
And than you create a public room that guests can enter.
hmm it looks like you need your own element client that defaults to your homeserver.
- published: 8888
- type: bind
but i don't allow registering users yet, because i don't know how long i can keep it running.
Server run by the main developers of the project It is not focused on any particular niche interest - everyone is welcome as long as you follow our code of conduct!