Looks like I will be trying out Session messenger (https://getsession.org). It's a fork of #Signal with many of the same advantages, in particular unproblematic setup. It appears to have made more sensible decisions in some areas however - accounts not bound to phone numbers, random recovery codes etc.
One has to share a lengthy Session ID before communicating with someone however.
Oh, and did I mention that one can create an account from the desktop client without hacking the app?
Me trying out Session messenger came to an abrupt end - I'm uninstalling it and recommend that everybody does the same. People pointed out the app's connections to the alt-right scene which I could sadly confirm. So I don't want to contribute to them washing the stains away.
This German-language video shows Loki Network's main developer (Jeff/majestrate) pitch his baby on 8chan and being celebrated by the alt-right for it (at 27:46). For reference, Loki Network is the foundation of Session and developed by the same startup. https://media.ccc.de/v/36c3-10639-let_s_play_infokrieg
Later 8chan was deplatformed and came back on Loki Network. The article calls it "inadvertent help" but it appears to be everything but that. The CEO is cited with the words "some Loki staff may have advised 8kun administrators 'to a limited extent'."
@fschaap Yes, I actually liked the app. On Twitter Kee Jefferys (CTO of Session) is saying that he wasn't aware of this and will look into it. Which can mean three outcomes:
1. Jeff leaves.
2. Kee Jefferys leaves.
3. Nothing happens and the whole thing is swept under the carpet.
@WPalant Thanks. Guess we'll have to keep an eye on that then. Hard question though... what if someone of questionable morals invented faster than light travel, would we choose to not use the invention? Technology is not neutral, that we know, but what if you can still put it to good use? Or should the project be forked to be used in good conscience? And would you then want to maintain interoperability?
@fschaap What if that someone invented FTL travel with the explicit intention of invading already inhabited worlds?
@WPalant Considering the state of the world, plenty of those ships would be leaving. Should we then not use FTL catch up with those ships and prevent them from invading already inhabited worlds?
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