@hhardy01 I'm not concerned about "blocking instances", I was trying to raise a discussion on "censorship" and "biased moderation" from the same people that criticise this behaviour from big tech. That's all, I'm not trying to defend or "unblock" anyone in particular :)

@hhardy01 What I mean by "public" is anyone can join, not necessarily they can do whatever they want. It's good to have clear rules *inside* the instance.

My point was to block entire instances because it might be offensive to someone, but people are capable enough of blocking whatever offensive profile they want.

@openscience raised a point on legal liability where the admins could be responsible for third-party content inside their server, which makes the block "understandable" in some way.

@hhardy01 Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to send me that and I'm well aware of that list. However, that's not what I was questioning.

Anyway, it's fine. I got a few perspectives on the matter, though. Clarified a bit more why things are the way they are 😊


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@grips@cawfee.club @Columbkille@rcsocial.net I'd say that probably , or @LemmyDev may have a more group-styled kind of thing where you could be part of the discussion without following everyone on it. Also, they're all federated!

I, myself, have been meaning to move all my social activities to Movim in the near future.

@openscience Hi, thanks for your comment. To be completely honest, I was unaware of this legal liability issue. This is a major problem!

Would you know if this is legislation from a specific country or most of them act in a similar way?

@resist1984 I don´t think it´s a matter of quality, I´d argue , and are all better than ; , and are all better than MS Office. The problem is that their future employers (a.k.a. private companies) in their vast majority use proprietary software. Universities want their students to be prepared for the job market, it improves their reputation which brings in more funding to pay for research, infrastructure and staff salaries.

@selamatC It´s a freaking rabbit hole that sometimes we found ourselves in it while the powerful (the 1% of the 1%) are the only ones to benefit from all disinformation, manipulation and political polarization. Today, to play politics mean to destroy someone else´s reputation and deceive as many people as possible. It stopped being about "democracy" a long time ago.

@selamatC The thing is that we should stop electing politicians and start electing people who really are expert in their respective areas. People still can´t see the power of community and free market.

@resist1984 It really is disappointing. The vast majority of companies and public institutions around the world use Office 365 and Zoom. They gladly pay for expensive subscriptions for third-party private companies to handle their data while open source projects die amid lack of funding and support.

Not sure if my point is clear on this thread, but I´m not defending hateful content nor am I saying manipulative information shouldn´t be scrutinized. My point is, we have been chasing a respectful and free internet while criticizing people who don´t fall on either side of the political spectrum. This polarization only benefits the powerful, unfortunately.

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@selamatC Yeah, I may be contradicting myself and I´m not defending hate speech, not sure if that was clear from my previous posts but, does Facebook really block all kind of extremists and hate speeches? Thanks for you comment :)

@hhardy01 You can take mastodon.social as an example, as far as I´m concerned (and the server can hold up) anyone can join. People are free to block anyone they want but why does the admin has a list of other instances that are blocked for everyone inside of it?

@hhardy01 One thing is to publish on other people´s site, another thing is to publish on a so-called public instance. Does it instigate hate? Does it cross the line between freedom of speech and crime? How about calling the proper authorities?

Building their own websites surely solve a lot of censorship issues and claims. But, are they effective against hate?

While many of you are fighting each other because a specific tool should be decentralized or because some other service is using something from Google, senior citizens just wanna see photos of their grandkids, teenagers just wanna be part of their social circles and adults just want something that works, plain and simple.

How are you helping these kinds of people break away from GAFAM? How can these people (and small businesses) rely on a community that fight each other?

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I've always questioned why admins of public instances should block far-right instances. I mean, aren't freedom of speech and "own your data" the whole points of decentralization?

If said "speech" instigate hate, chaos or promote disinformation, you can use your influence to let people know and maybe block it just for you. However, I think people can decide by themselves what they wanna see in their local and global timelines.

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Where are all the people who talk about sports? Or politics? Or discuss books they read recently?

Where are all the people who discuss practical ways of helping friends and family with barely any IT skill migrate away from GAFAM instead of shoving down theoretical approaches from Saint IGNUcius?

I think one of the things that bothered me the most was a developer saying that he'd stop his support to certain tool because the community was "stupid". He literally said that!

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I've seen people being kicked out of chat groups for using the word "Linux" as a reference to the OS with the kernel. Apparently this is capital sin, you should use either or GNU/Linux. Am I the only one who think this is a bit too much?

I've also seen people engaging in strong criticisms because some organizations should have a more active presence in decentralized services. I agree with the premise, but did we stop to help them reach more people while breaking free from GAFAM?

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I believe that most of the people that migrated from , did so because twitter was becoming quite an extremist toxic environment. There's also the whole centralization and censoring issues with platforma like that.

I have witnessed people criticizing (not debating) each other here in for a flexible opinion on private companies and capitalism as a whole. This sounds like extremism to me from the other side of the spectrum.

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