@alfajet Yes. I've followed Purism and other projecs (I was a FirefoxOS fan), but I think the point is: applications. I want more data-privacy for my children, my parents, and anybody who cares, and 90% of them will use some "mainstream" apps at some point. That's the approach I want to have with eelo. Step by step, each step better than the previous one towards more privacy.

@gael Used to be a mandrake user before moving on to debian based distro, so I wish you to succeed :)

I understand and share your goals. Ultimately we need to make it easy for non technical people to benefit from "privacy-friendly" tools.

I just felt that Purism shared similar goals than yours. Considering the mastodons on the other side (no pun intended, maybe actually) I was wondering of the relevance of another separate initiative. But I'll read more about your project first.

@alfajet I think the goal are the sames. The pathes are different :)

@fla @gael Don't forget that #Android is *not* tied to #Google, only the Google Apps are (gmail, maps, chrome, waze, and of course the play store). Android is separate and open source, see LineageOS for example.

There are alternatives for most gapps. For example f-droid is an alternative to the play store (with only open source apps).

This is also a great way to avoid google, while benefiting from the android community. Of course it's a matter of taste :)

@gael @fla though the problem with android is that most phones are made by profit companies, and include closed hardware, with closed drivers. Such drivers have complete access to the hardware, so a perfect place to hide spyware (which doesn't mean they do, just that it's possible).

I wonder if the eelo project aims at solving this?

@youen @fla this is a real issue. What we can do with this phone is auditing them. Then we need to cooperate with open source hw makers like fairphone. Ultimately I want eelo to design its own phone.