Breaking News (from 3 days ago): Noah Carl's fellowship has been terminated, after months of investigation. Compared to some ~ other ~ investigations which have taken place in Cambridge University, this one was pretty brief. A very interesting nugget of the conclusions reached by the investigation, is that while it found that Carl should not have a fellowship, it also found that there was nothing wrong with the process which led to him being given the fellowship.
So, while it is wrong that a race scientist with appalling research credentials was given a fellowship, there is nothing wrong with the process by which the fellowship was given to him. In other words, bad things happen, but they do so out of pure accident, and there is nothing wrong with the system within which they happen. An interesting, hypothesis, for sure.
Let's be clear: this would never have been investigated if it hadn't been for the students of colour who fought for their (and my own) safety by relentlessly protesting and pressuring the college in question. Three of these students (again, all people of colour) were threatened with disciplinary action for peacefully protesting. They were accused of being "intimidating and threatening" by their college. This was not investigated, and no apology has been offered to these students.
The Fellowship Of The Racist
@garfiald the result was bad but the process... the process was very good
@garfiald their process didnt even reach the lofty heights of "a quick google"?
@chillallmen seems like "looking at the research this guy wrote" didnt factor into deciding whether or not give him a research job
@garfiald who's researching the researchers
@garfiald "ah bloody hell we hired a racist"
but like how, didn't you research him?
"that's what we hired him for"
I'm glad SOMETHING was done, but frankly this shouldn't have happened in the first place
@garfiald just having a normal one as usual
The academic equivalent of calling the police for no good reason, I guess.
@garfiald jesus fucking christ
@garfiald hold up, didn't something like this happen at another prestigious uni a few years ago too? I can't remember which one but I'm sure someone racist got hired somewhere major and it led to similar threats made to students fighting it
@sophia @garfiald not sure if this is the thing you're thinking of but UCL hosted a eugenics/race science/white supremacist conference for several years before it got exposed by the student paper. the guy this thread is about was an attendee, unsurprisingly. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2018/jan/10/ucl-to-investigate-secret-eugenics-conference-held-on-campus
@garfiald we had a registered sex offender working at my university as head of a department until last year when some students got a petition going to remove him. and i mean serious charges too, the girl was like 14. colleges are absolutely terrible about students’ safety.
The system will always fight to protect itself.
@garfiald uhhh wow fuck this, sorry garf
@garfiald I'm getting reminded of the whole Cecil Rhodes story at Oxford, and it's just as if there were people in positions of authority at these universities who would engage in active lobbying for supporting these ideas.
Also it's "funny" it's happening days after Cambridge announced their intentions to *research how much slavery benefited the university, and how long and to what extent academics there reinforced and propagated racist theories*.
Well here's a data point for "how long"...
@crowpersona Oh yeah, that investigation is its own bag of worms
@garfiald did they even really have a process
@a_breakin_glass i mean, its worth remembering that tens of other academics probably applied for the same job and were turned down in favour of the self-published race scientist
@garfiald true. I'm wondering why exactly anyone would go for a race scientist who sucks this fucking obviously
@garfiald did somebody with some funding role like that guy involved in peterson's involvement come on board?
@a_breakin_glass well the body in charge of appointing the fellowship is all white men, this much we know. the thing is that carl is (or rather, before this fellowship, was) all but entirely ostracised from the academic world, which is why he's publishing in the non-peer-reviewed journal which he is also the editor of. so idk tbh
@garfiald epic conclusion
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