*STEM major voice* I'm a determinist because my epistemological framework presupposes determinism. this is very smart

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cucked philosopher of mind: i have no idea what "free will" is. I have no idea what "will" is. consciousness? ok I guess

megabrain scientist: if we use a big enough microscope to look at people's brains when we ask them what type of cheese they want we can identify the Decisions Molecule

@garfiald once on twitter i suggested we simply put people with different moral systems in a double-blind test to see which of them produce the best results, and some dork turned up like 'ackshually that is exactly what liberal democracies already do,,'

@garfiald worms in the brain and the brain worms have their own brain worms. awe-inspiring, honestly

@garfiald philosophy of mind is just 'i love heidegger and hate animals'

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actually "free will" is a word that is to often used by idiots. as if "free" was equal to "indetermined" ... ahhhhhh!

@garfiald You won't believe where consciousness is really stored...

@garfiald gotta love cognitive science! let's go find the free will neuron

@velexiraptor @garfiald STEM voice; the free will neurons are next to the gender neurons

@garfiald free will isn't free, think of all the brain cells that died for your ability to make decisions, liberals btfo

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@garfiald

Adam Curtis, the documentary maker, speaks fluent Russian and some of his early documentaries, made during Glastnost, were about the Soviet system trying to sort out it's problems and survive. There was an observation about Stalinism that I think is from one of these documentaries that sticks with me:

Stalin was worried about counter-revolutionaries in the academy, so what they did was train engineers only to do engineering and kept them away from philosophy. It was like deciding that because people ~can~ get along with only three fingers that they ~should~ get along with only three fingers. So people who had only studied STEM were left making decisions that required synthesis of ideas and knowledges beyond anything they'd been trained in. This did not lead to good outcomes.

Now, in western countries, the 1% are trying to hoard the humanities. Liberal Arts colleges are failing across the US, for want to less money than Bezos "earns" in an afternoon. And people who have only done STEM are trying to design social interactions and democracy itself.

Literally the thing that destroyed communism in Russia is going to destroy capitalism in the US and replace it with feudalism / human exteniction and everyone with actual power thinks this is great because being a feudal lord on Mars sounds fun.

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@celesteh @garfiald So you're saying we should all read more fiction for the good of society? (i.e. spend time styuding humanities)

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@celesteh @garfiald
"Let no one ignorant of geometry enter here." You're certainly true that when it comes to social matters #engineers often fail to question underlyingIy assumptions. Even so, I tend to think one of the major problems in anglophone societies is that our elites are verbally agile, but lack a real understanding of technology, science and math, particularly statistics.

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@mpjgregoire @garfiald

The liberal arts colleges/universities that are in trouble do require that people also take STEM subjects to graduate. So english majors take maths and so forth. Mine required everyone take two since or maths classes.

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@celesteh @garfiald
Hmm. I don't recall my (non-science, non-engineering) friends at either of my two Canadian undergrad universities taking any math courses. But maybe those universities were exceptional.

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@mpjgregoire @garfiald

Yes, this is how a liberal arts college differs from other institutions. In the US, they are failing at an astounding rate. Where failing means closing for lack of funds.

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