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Something interesting happens with the "teachers are cops" discourse, where a surprising proportion of people engage with criticism of the scool system from the very liberal perspective of "you can't criticise schools - teachers are good people" and another, even more surprising proportion of people take criticism of the school system to mean "all teachers actually are cops".

My stance:

1. schools are bad

2. teaching is good

3. most teachers are amazing people

And by "schools are bad", I mean "abolish school as we know it"

@garfiald Your take is good, and I actually would have assumed it would be the take of most folks on the left. I'm surprised you encounter the pushback you describe in the original post.

@garfiald i really like this take more than the others I've seen.

Some teachers helped me figure shit out.

A lot of teachers are assholes, though.

@xanderpendrake it's a real feeling! god knows we've all dealt with some terrible teachers

@garfiald i like teachers my a level film teacher chris was great. this is my stance

@garfiald i agree that most teachers are great but seeing people say that all teachers are martyrs who do nothing wrong is uh, a very jarring thing to read for someone who had more than a few abusive teachers

@ItsMorgan I totally understand!!! I'm sorry you had abusive teachers Morgan. There is nothing like that pain

@garfiald oh no is the teachers are cops discourse back again???? i dunno i definitely had my life shaped and most likely saved by some really caring teachers

@garfiald my mother is a teacher and literally all she wants to do is be able to teach her kids what needs to be taught in a way that works. that's it. that's all. like obviously not everyone is like that but cmon.

@girl im glad you had that experience!!! Most teachers I know are amazing people and well, I do want to do it for a job. But a lot of kids, especially those from ~ certain groups ~ have a bad time in school because school sucks! anyway that's my opinion on this in case you felt like reading it. abolish school give teachers $1 million dollars

@garfiald I think the main thing is that, while cops have no ability to change the fucked up system theyre in even if they wanted to because the system wouldn’t allow it, teachers can actually make a difference because without having fight the system directly, through just thinking outside the box in their teaching and going against the grain in classes usually unobserved, they have the ability to actually shape lives for the better in a way no cop ever could.

@gia @garfiald another big difference is that teachers are not allowed to kill people with impunity

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