Also free idea for the tech people on here: band camp but for books
I’ve literally been desperate for this for years. We hate amazon. Please someone do this
Another thing: I’m not here trying to romanticize the “Ive been rejected 69,420 times but now I’m published” thing. If you can get published traditionally great! But those are sexist and racist capitalist institutions and there is no shame in self publishing. Nietzsche self published and Whitman wrote reviews of his own book. Do what you need to do
Did not expect this to blow up: what I’m getting at is there is no agreed upon noncorporate place for people to go to publish, discover, and buy ebooks. Amazon is still the widely used service on the left. I see a lot of leftist writers publish on amazon despite their criticisms... we need to build an that alternate ebook community and economy on a platform that doesnt suck. That platform might exist, like itch.io, but such a space does not exist right now.
Another reason to do this is I think amazon self-published authors are writing to increasingly problematic audiences... like one podcast I listened to suggested that ‘writing politically incorrect stories is a business opportunity bc the big four won’t risk their brand on it’ meaning there’s an unmet market. There’s going to be increasingly bad (yes I know it’s already bad) stuff on amazon and there will probably be a big opportunity for rivals when people realize that
@goodleftyfundies i think itch.io could work as a place for books as well, i mean it has all the needed infrastructure. but yeah the culture isn't there yet, it's mostly games and small zines still
@em I didn’t think to look into that as an option but now I will. I’m just very frustrated with publishing
@goodleftyfundies there is even a separate category called books, i'm not sure that it's used very much though
@em maybe I’ll start using it!
@em do you think people find your IF and games thru itch.io?
If you haven't played Galatea: http://pr-if.org/play/galatea/
Spider and Web: https://eblong.com/zarf/zweb/tangle/
Galatea, which looks very simple, is actually very complicated, and you can have several different conversations with her that close off paths
Anchorhead, the biggest parser-IF I know of, is like a book-length Lovecraft story where you can explore an entire New England town over the course of several days
I'd love to write something complex and cool like that, but my programming skills are small
@secondary_world @em @goodleftyfundies My very favourite IF of all time has to be the gloriously bizarre works of rybread celsius. Just found a very nice overview of his work here https://sub-q.com/the-works-of-rybread-celsius-a-critical-reassessment/
@goodleftyfundies i definitely get some people that way! i think sharing the links on twitter and submitting stuff to game jams has done most of the work though
@goodleftyfundies I think the thing to do is use Amazon as a publishing platform/landing page & attract your customers from elsewhere?
Like, to send people over from Mastodon, even?
@goodleftyfundies I may be misunderstanding how Bandcamp works, but isn't that smashwords?
@goodleftyfundies Merde, y'a 3 ans j'y ai pensé et me suis dit : j'y arriverais pas. J'voulais que ce soit aussi un site ou tu puisses faire éditer...
Bref, j'avais pas la force. Désolée
@goodleftyfundies I've seen folks use itch.io for ebook distribution
@goodleftyfundies itch.io lets you do books and also lets you do pay-what-you-want, and they seem to be good peoples.
@starbreaker they’re more of a portal to publish on kobo, Barnes and noble, amazon, and iTunes now
@goodleftyfundies You sure? I'm looking at their site now and they still have an option to buy directly from them. They even have dropbox and delivery-by-email options.
@starbreaker yes you can still do that but they are in the business now of letting authors easily publish on all the main corporate sites simultaneously
@goodleftyfundies I suppose I can use them for now and migrate to bandcamp-for-books if it ever materializes and isn't utter shit.
@starbreaker my point is that there isn’t like a non-evil corporation run ebook community on the internet and that is something we should change. I have my ebook on kobo but I can’t say kobo is good. They’re just not amazon. Smashwords too would just be not amazon for me
@goodleftyfundies what about gumroad?
@hirojin do you still have to pay to use that?
I guess its not entirely clear what features you are looking for here?
Pay what you want model that ebooks can be delivered is clear and gumroad handles that. Are you looking for something that is book specific for any particular reason?
I guess can you elaborate on what the ask here is?
@goodleftyfundies So, like a crowd sourced Amazon?
@goodleftyfundies I would be interested in trying something like that, but I do not have the resources for that at all.
Let alone the legal stuff that would have to go with that.
@gudenau honestly the biggest hurdle in all this is probably legal and not technical good point
@goodleftyfundies Yeah, doing anything like this you need to make sure all of your Ts are crossed and your Is dotted.
People will try scams, and since you would be the one facilitating it you would be hit in the cross fire.
@gudenau yeah that’s one of amazons biggest problems... that’s also why I think having user reviews on the site is an important part
@gaditb I’m not familiar with them... I’ll have to check it out thank you
As always, the key element lies in the customer base. Whether or not an indie author wants to make the BIG $$$, they still want to be read. Publishing to a dead or tiny platform, even one with its heart in the right place, does no one any good.
If a Masto-like service dedicated to promoting indie writers and their books were put together with top-shelf search and browsing tools, could it be linked up to a FOSS shopping cart system?
People could then join up as easily as they would with any other instance. They could search for and buy books, chat with favorite authors, and become part of a literary ecosystem as more than just customers.
Server run by the main developers of the project It is not focused on any particular niche interest - everyone is welcome as long as you follow our code of conduct!