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@gruber Was typing as difficult as one Engadget reviewer says?

"It took several tries for me to even spell Engadget correctly in the Safari demo. This was surprising to me, as so many other aspects of the broader Apple experience – the pinch gesture, the original touch keyboard on the original iPhone – that 'just work,' as Apple loves to say about itself." (in Engadget hands-on)

@Ciantic I wouldn't call it difficult at all. Easy as pie in fact. But it's slow, because it's one key at a time.

If you're going to be writing in it, you’re going to want a keyboard.

@gruber @Ciantic You mean there's no voice dictation?

@rogerschutte There’s dictation, and unlike most visionOS buttons, you don’t even have to “tap” (but that’s a setting): just LOOK at the mic icon in each text field and speak.

In addition to tapping the virtual keys, you can just look at the letters. And apparently you can also type on your iPhone/iPad (the way you can with an Apple TV box) if you like that method. Many input options!

But for long writing sessions, many people like a physical keyboard, and those are supported.

@ljs Too hard to say even after my 4th demo, because they've still all just been guided demos. I can say with certainty that it's a killer entertainment device.

@greenchapter For now, watching movies (and the just-for-Vision immersive experiences).

This @agrant @gruber, goofiness is my principle concern too.

@gruber Fascinating! I would have put money on this being the weakest feature due to the difficulty and lack of demos so far

@simonbs I did not get to see myself in EyeSight, because setting up a persona wasn't part of the demo. But I did get to see an Apple rep in EyeSight. I need to write about it in a length greater that a post here, but basically, it really just looks like they're wearing semi-shaded ski goggles. It's not impressive or "wow!" at all, unless you really understand and think about how it's not actually see-through.

@gruber @simonbs That’s dope. It shouldn’t be a stand out feature honestly, just enough to get the point across even if the tech behind the feature is complex.

@monorailtimes I can't say for sure but I think Apple has been pretty clear that there's one primary user and guest mode, and that's it.

@gruber @monorailtimes I guess I assume guest mode is automatic if it doesn't detect the main user's eyes?

@pmcg @monorailtimes Hmm. It might just stay locked — the owner might have to authorize guest mode first. I don’t know (yet).

@uxprinciples @gruber that would be nice, but doesn't seem like that's the case, which sucks. It being tuned to one person makes zero sense.

@spbollin I'm not quite sure overall. I suspect a lot (or next exactly) like iPads do. Do iPads work for you?

@gruber iPads sort of work for us (we're pretty resourceful and tricky). Thanks for the response! I've already asked our Apple sales engineer, but haven't heard back yet. They know our situation fairly well.

@jknlsn @gruber #rofl

@GSStamas There were no mirrors in the room I was in, so I still can't say.

@gruber @GSStamas Vision Pro users are invisible in mirrors, like vampires: confirmed

@_holger For entertainment, for sure. No question. For anything else, still an open question.

@gruber but for entertainment it’s a purely solo-experience. Family members have to do something else…

@_holger @gruber sometimes the family is more than fine with that too.

@timo No ear discomfort at all. Not even sure how there would be I don't think the strap even touched my ears and the sound from the built-in speakers just seems natural.

@gruber @timo how long did you wear it?

And did. Apple mention anything about games? I mean something like „red star“ in this resolution … or a 3d interactive documentary about the universe, galaxies, planets …

@nSonic @gruber @timo yes, Celestia or Stellarium would be awesome in this environment…

@pmcg @gruber you’d get a good neck workout with two pounds of metal on there.

@timo @gruber in airports they sell those inflatable neck cushions! That's a good combo deal.

@gruber @timo looks like they might fit okay but the power plug is in the way on left side. Is that the only battery? If so, wouldn't work at all.

@nickpro @timo Depends if you’ll need noise cancellation. No harm just trying the built-in speakers first.

@benbloodworth I didn't time it, but I think I had it on for about 30 minutes. I found it more comfortable than any previous time I've tried it, and I don't think it left any impression on my face. (That said, I didn't look in a mirror after.)

@jubal I got to experience a trailer for the new immersive TV app content, sort of a 2-minute trailer with highlights from all of them. Very compelling. But, as with normal movies, enjoying the trailer doesn't always mean enjoying the full thing. I expect this to be pretty awesome for nature documentaries.