Really, @purism? You copy a bunch of open-source apps and make it look like they are yours without any mention of the original apps? I think you should delete these apps immediately and publicly apologize. Or at least don't have the audacity to call yourself a "Social Purpose Corporation that does not exploit people and puts doing social good over maximizing profit ", because its obviously not true.

@ConnyDuck @purism This is really destroying the reputation of the whole project for me...

@gaab @purism yeah the idea is nice but the execution really bad

@ConnyDuck @gaab @purism Why should anyone interested in free/libre software and a web of diversity opting for "centralized" services run by a single company instead of grabbing the "original"? (I know the answer - its just for the sake of comfort...)
To me this has a strong taste of "googling" free software together and bind the users to the services of @Purism. Till now i was not really interested in @Purism, now i'm sure i will avoid their products.

@guzzisti @ConnyDuck @gaab @purism @Purism I'm not sure whether you are correct. I guess the reason for the fork is that they will convert Tusky to work with a mobile KDE desktop. Because that's what the Librem 5 will work with.

@kayb @ConnyDuck @purism I'm not sure as well, but looking at the competitive chart provided by them, it's pretty much about rebuilding "the bad big ones" with free software and to provide all the services users may need/want. It's just that @Purism claims to protect privacy and so on. But using centralized services have a few pros and cons besides that.

@guzzisti Not sure whether I get you right, but where do you see centralization? What they use is Matrix (Librem Chat), Mastodon (Librem Social) with the Tusky fork mentioned here and Mail which are all federated services. Just with dedicated apps to use those, which is the situation with anything you want to use on a computer except Web Browsing.

@kayb I see centralization in @purism running all of this services at once. I can't find a benefit for "free software" in @purism establishing additional instances of services (federated or not, ) instead of encouraging the users to choose the services (free or not) they like or need. Whats the reason in binding users to the services of a single company? I thought we all had experienced what this approach leds to (remember google and facebook?) and then choosen to go our own way.

@guzzisti It matters a lot whether those services are federated or not. As long as I don't depend on their services, I don't care at all and rather welcome them offering some free service. Especially since I expect the people who funded the Librem 5 to be well aware of possible implications when using services by a certain party (though I don't see any negative aspects, only the possibility they could, in theory, occur in the future, like advertising on a Mastodon instance or so).

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