I can now add a less-ironic #3 – a man with a Fedora logo in his username (#FreeSoftware community is long-overdue some garbage collection) who finds it hard to believe that @fedilab blocked me, and thinks the dev isn't "cozying up to Nazis, to the best of [his] knowledge".
I will step away from gauchely posting about blocks now, I promise 😅
@alexandru_balan here's my toot to them just before the "News" tab in my Fedilab went blank:
@alexandru_balan and here's the developer responding positively to a bunch of reviews which praise the app for allowing them to access Gab - if you're going to argue that's somehow not a Nazi instance then I can't help you 🤷♀️
@fedilab also responded with thanks to a reviewer who used the word "tranny" to describe someone who'd left a negative review (can't find it in Google Play now, I hope they deleted it..)
@alexandru_balan "tranny" is a slur, according to the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation - it's in a list of "words [which] dehumanize transgender people"
(you might also want to peep what that page has to say about "transsexual"..)
Oh, and "tranny" is also a slur according to me, a trans person, and my many friends who are trans. But by all means, mansplain the terms of abuse we face for our gender identity 🙄
@alexandru_balan & don't think anybody is beyond salvation, but I don't personally have the capacity to patiently help you realise that someone giving a platform to Nazis is a) bad for the world and b) grounds for having the label "nazi" applied..
I truly hope you find someone to help you out on that front, as very soon as possible, as much for your sake as anyone else's..
I've been on #gab a couple of times. Yeah you rarely find some racist spewing his propaganda there. But this is what happens in a place where no one imposes an ideology on you. Even on real life you'll find the occasional racist who's there to make your day bad. But blaming @fedilab for giving you access is stupid. Don't like the place? Don't go there. It should be your choice to not access gab, it shouldn't be imposed on you by others, that's tyranny
@alexandru_balan like I said, please find someone else to explain it to you.
Before asking them, maybe have a little think about whether it's "tyranny" that people will ask you to leave a workplace / public park / family gathering if you start spewing racist abuse..
@alexandru_balan oh, and, one thing I'm happy to correct: tolerating Nazis is as much an "ideology" as not tolerating them..
The thing is that gab is not racist, there is only a small part which is racist. So yeah it is tyranny to ban gab for those people. It's like any other environment where people interact, there will always be The Asshole which we all will ignore and leave him be. We do not close or ban anything usually just because of an asshole.
If you see some racist in gab, you have every right to tell him to go away, and he has every right to stay. Baning won't make him less racist, arguments might
@alexandru_balan what's your evidence for that theory? cos it looks to me like shutting down the places that bigots organise shuts down the bigotry:
I'd like to believe it but I found only one recent study and is sponsored by the likes of Facebook and Twitter which are the greatest censors in the social media world. So...no
@alexandru_balan if you would really "like to believe it" you would have looked up the name of the author of the article I linked to a screenshot from, Chandrasekharan, and found "You Can’t Stay Here: The Efficacy of Reddit’s 2015 Ban Examined Through Hate Speech", Proc. ACM Hum.-Comput. Interact. 1, 2, Article 31 (November 2017), 22 pages. https://doi.org/10.1145/3134666
Funding sources listed as "National Institutes of Health" and "National Science Foundation"
@alexandru_balan but either you're so ideologically committed to providing a platform for bigots that you don't want to find evidence, or you expect marginalised people to do your leg-work for you because you're too lazy. In either case: bye 👋
Meh, fair enough but have you read it? There is no empirical evidence of any change of behaviour on either user or community level.
Oh and thanks for the ban, I just changed my mind suddenly now that I'm banned
@isolategab yeah, lol, "rarely", right? 🤦♀️
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