@Gargron

I support integration, not segregation.

@hhardy01 @gargron

It's not segregation to have a community around shared interests and experiences, doubly if it can operate as a place to speak a language that you otherwise would never have an opportunity to use.

@Mainebot @Gargron

If people have craft-centric instances that's much different than having racially segregated instances.

@hhardy01 @gargron

Artists haven't experienced attempted cultural genocide, and can engage with their interests freely. First nations have historically been the target of social and cultural genocide, not to mention literal actual genocide, and continue to suffer for it. Having a community to freely engage with your culture, language, and interests is a good thing and should be encouraged.

And they would still federate with everyone, as you doubtless understand, right?

@Mainebot @Gargron

The same could be said of many or most minority ethnic groups and conquered peoples.

Is that what you want, a constellation of racially segregated instances?

@hhardy01 @gargron

Are you American? That is literally the 100 level description of the cultural mosaic, and it's how minorities can retain their individual culture and beliefs while participating in the larger social system. It's how Canada tries to handle things, to varying degrees of success.

@Mainebot @Gargron

So do I understand you correctly, are you really arguing in favor of segregation?

Are you sure about that?

And do you really think the historic treatment of First Nations by Canada is something that anyone in the world should endorse or seek to emulate?

'Canada 150 is a celebration of Indigenous genocide'

http://bit.ly/2KzluQj

@hhardy01 @gargron

Oh my god dude are you REALLY using the historic and awful violence against the first Nations people as a reason why they SHOULDNT have an online community around their interests, culture, and language??

@hhardy01 @gargron

Like really! Is your argument 'they should have no choice but to take the dominant culture as their own, for their own good' by way of calling an interest and culture based instance 'racial segregation.

You're a fucking racist clown

@Mainebot @Gargron

You asked, "Is your argument 'they should have no choice but to take the dominant culture as their own, for their own good' by way of calling an interest and culture based instance 'racial segregation."

No, that is not my argument.

Insulting people you don't know and have never met by making up malicious lies about them isn't a substitute for a well-reasoned and factually supported rational, ethical, or moral argument.

@hhardy01 By your logic mastodon.art should not exist since artists should simply integrate everywhere else

@Gargron @hhardy01 also, integration can very well happen by federation. I mean, I interact with people from different communities. (I must, my instance is basically just me for now, it would be boring otherwise.)

@hypolite @Gargron

I mean the term "segregated" in precisely its historic sense and connotation.

"Let us be dissatisfied until integration is not seen as a problem but as an opportunity to participate in the beauty of diversity."

--Martin Luther King, Jr.
Address to the Southern Christian Leadership Conference
16 August 1967

https://stanford.io/2IItHQG