We should avoid the term 'user' for people that are on the #fediverse. It is impersonal.
Using the term 'people' as in people-of-the-fediverse also doesn't cut it. It is too general.
'Resident' as in fediverse-resident is possible, but also not descriptive enough (it needs 2 words to be clear).
Do we have single-word intuitive names to indicate our federated community and movement? Are there multiple terms, are they urban popular language yet?
I'd really like to know, so I can avoid 'user'.
@humanetech we used to be called denizens. for some reason, 'netizen' feels forced or unsavory to me.
@theruran hmm, interesting..
- n. An inhabitant; a resident.
- n. One that frequents a particular place.
- n. An animal or a plant naturalized in a region.
It has a good meaning. But to me as non-native English speaker I was not familiar with it really. Intuitively to me it has a bit negative connotation, maybe stemming from its likeness to the word 'to deny' at the start (but that may be appropriate too).
@humanetech fedizen 😆
@theruran well, actually I really like that! I was just searching DDG if "fedalist" had a meaning in English.
@theruran if we have some good candidates we could do a poll and try to popularize the 'winning' term thereafter.
To all: See the starter of this thread... boosts welcome :)
@theruran PS. I have used 'fedizens' in an issue I am preparing for a new project idea:
Some plurals I just brainstormed:
- Fedellows (from 'fellow' in meaning "person of equal rank, position, or background; a peer")
@humanetech I don't see a big problem with 'user'. It implies that a person has made an active choice in their participation. But depending on the context, other words may be more appropriate or descriptive: reader, poster, follower, admin, member, moderator, participant, colleague, comrade, contributor, troll, booster, developer.
How about 'fedizen'?
Problem with "user" is that e.g. on traditional social platforms it is not really true. The users are the "product" or the "abused" (by abusers)
Many software developers have "user persona's" as abstractions, and in the process forget the real people they represent
@humanetech @theruran Interesting, as this trend against saying "user" actually started at Facebook and is now popular at exploitative companies like Uber. It was a kind of phony "we're down with the people" maneuver that distracted from the consequences of their design decisions.
In my experience, "personas" (when done earnestly) are very specific fictional characters that are supposed to help describe a more holistic idea of use. They will include extra details to make the person seem more believable even if the infomation doesn't relate to the use case.
Abstract personas are not really useful.
@Lamdarer I think "federalist" has also other connotations and uses that make that use not a best choice. And something unique to the fediverse would be a boon.
Re: user. See my other comment on the thread.
@humanetech comrade, contributor, producer, agent?
@AmonesRay could be, but none of these are descriptive. They need additional context / explanation.
@humanetech something in the direction of contributor, co-owner, or peer, maybe?
@madnificent yes, some have been suggested (this thread has a bunch of forks already). The descriptiveness is missing though in these. You need to add more text to create proper context.
@humanetech I came late to the party, did not see the messages yet 🙈
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@madnificent welcome to the Fediverse, Aad! 🎉
@madnificent Let's make things even better, hehe 😃
There is an advantage and a disadvantage: 'User' is a four letter word. 'User' is a four letter word.
@humanetech How about Fedizen? I haven't seen it used yet.
This got me thinking about other terms too. Maybe we should replace the terms "follow" and "follower" with "subscribe" and "subcriber".
"User" makes sense in the context of gratis third-party services. "Content" is the irrelevant stuff you put your customers' ads around. We have to find and use better terms.
@humanetech member? Collaborator? Reader/Writer?
@solaslux See the forks in this thread. These are not descriptive enough.
The best entry imho now proposed is Fedizen (and I just heard it has been used for years already :)
@lightone oh, that is cool. It is not common language though (at least I never heard it mentioned) How do you like my 'peersons' for use in a p2p context, btw?
Probably also exists for a long time, ha ha.
@humanetech Such words appear naturally, someone coins a word and it spreads. As happened with the word "Fediverse". I'm not a daily 🍐2🍐 user and have no idea how they greet each other there :) "Peer" is already an independent word, so it may be that saying "hello, fellow peers" will be easier than "hello, peersons". But who knows.
@mike "Members" is a good choice, I like it. And I'm glad you don't insist on this choice now, for I'd like it less if it were forced on me. Fediverse, being a community of creative people, has adopted a lot of words for their own needs and liking (hub, pod, instance, node would be one such example). That's fine - it helps spread a sense of community for each project! But old-school, simple "server" and "user" may come in handy - especially, when explaining to newcomers.
ha, that's a good one. Dunno if it will become popular, though :D
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