But there are things that worry me about the tech. It's commercially driven from Inrupt, the community is not actively engaged. This is not good for the #foss movement.
Solid was also strangely positioned, and e.g. on Hacker News never well-understood.
For #FediverseFutures I've voiced my concern. See:
I agree. You should separate the community and the project here, as they are not tightly bound together.
There's enthusiastic people in the community doing nice things. But they are neglected, not involved in the project. The project organization is all boards and governance, very formal.
Solid is just accepting that the internet is run by large corps and is just about protecting users' data better, and expecting corps to adopt it.
Whereas the kind of decentralization (not blockchain) the world needs breaks the corp silos and gives users ownership of both the data and the tools, i.e. #smalltechnology
@hamishcampbell @ttiurani @humanetech @activitypub I don't think solid is going anywhere. I tried reading the specs a while ago, mistakenly thinking that because this is TBL's baby it would be the most highly specified thing you could imagine. But turns out the specs were almost entirely TBA, and TBL is really just a wooly "vision guy" not into details.
ActivityPub has been a success despite of W3C, not because of it. Hitching your wagon to something which is just a corporate consortium is always going to come with a top down agenda.
@bob @ttiurani @humanetech so to sum this up we don't think #SOLID is going anywhere, so we should not talk about it at the #EU event and stick to #activertypub which has an active community and wide implementation. We talked about this in the video prep meeting to keep a clear focus and hope of a positive outcome.
@hamishcampbell @bob @ttiurani @humanetech @redchrision @NGIZero I'm not really a fan of Eurocrats, so you're on your own with that.
I expect that the Eurocrats will be trying to achieve more independence from Silicon Valley and the industrial espionage which that facilitates, but they will also want top down control within their own fiefdom and so won't favour solutions which are coming from non-institutional sources. They will be looking at questions such as who can we gain leverage over vis a vis this or that technology choice. Who is "legible" to the Eurocracy, etc.
@hamishcampbell @bob @ttiurani @humanetech The EU can have their instances if they want. Probably I'd block them, just like I'd block the UK government if they put up an instance.
I notice in other forums that people are interested in replicating the same hierarchical command-and-control structures which have brought so much trouble. I don't think that's a good way to go.
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