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Woodworking Youtube is blowing up because a youtuber just proved - flat-out *proved* with machinery and controlled environments and numbers - that end-to-end glue joints are STRONGER than face-to-end or face-to-face joints, which is completely contrary to what we've all been told and assumed for... well, a LONG time!

Like, the video only came out a couple of weeks ago, and Woodworking Youtube is still figuring out whether this means we have to throw out everything we thought we knew about joinery or whether we only have to change a little bit or whether it even matters or whether we can carry on making our usual joints and just kind of try to ignore this as long as we can

Please be gentle with the dads in your life as this is an uncertain time for us

This is so fascinating that I'm even watching a Stumpy Nubs video

Bloke's the Technology Connections of woodworking

He's the guy you always end up talking to at parties because you love your friends and want them to have a nice time so you let him talk to you instead, and after a while you even start listening because there's some fascinating stuff he knows if you can just get past the sort of personality that finds out all this stuff

You know the guy, he says "Utilize" instead of "Use"

Anyway apparently there's no need for any of that fancy stuff and butts are really all you need.

Alright same guy's got a video called GLUE MYTHS 2: MITERS and I'm gonna have a stiff drink and brace myself and see how else this bloke's gonna turn my world upside down

@ifixcoinops Well, looks like I've found a new topic to obsessively learn about.

@diffractie @ifixcoinops lmao I was just about to share these toots with you and then I see you in the replies already

@ifixcoinops
I just subscribed. This guy is great. These are my people ❤️

@ifixcoinops ...i would voluntarily talk to the TC guy at a party anyway

@ifixcoinops you're don't like technology connections? I like technology connections. But I am probably also another guy nobody wants to talk to at a party. Everyone has a nice time as long as us tedious gits stick to talking to each other.

@danielcassidy I appreciate his content and his expertise. Guy knows a lot of unusual and interesting things, no argument there. I just can't get past his condescending bloody snarky smart-arse tone. The contrast between him and, say, Big Clive is like the difference between Stumy Nubs and, like, Steve Ramsey. I just want to be shown something cool in a friendly way, without the unnecessary Youtube Snark.

@mangeurdenuage @ifixcoinops As Stumpy Nubs says, the results don't say much about real world use, because the concentration of forces at the joints means the forces he measured can easily be exceeded in many cases; it does help take off some stigma off simple rabbet joints, turns out they're strong enough for real world use https://yewtu.be/watch?v=l_w_or3KhH4

@ifixcoinops

I can see the tendency for sanding dust to build up in the endgrain being a reason this wouldn't be the case, but it does sound about right.
Most porous areas give the best glue joins in glass and stone.

@ifixcoinops time to watch a bunch of videos on a topic i never heard of just because it seems fascinating from a fedi post

@ifixcoinops haven't seen this but surely depends somewhat on the glue you're using? Presumably higher porosity of end grain takes up the glue better and makes for a better joint. Were the faces smoothed or roughed up? Guess I should just find the video😁

@WoodPixel Regular old Titebond II, tested using a hydraulic press on a variety of species, I saw the discourse and went "SURELY NOT" and yeah, no, he absolutely proved it youtube.com/watch?v=m7HxBa9WVi

@ifixcoinops I wonder if the long-standing knowledge came from an over-simplification of why you'd use those joints:

- widening a board for side-to-side, and
- lengthening a board for end-to-end.

In the widening case, the new board won't be significantly less strong from the added leverage. However in the lengthening case, the new board will be significantly less strong compared to a board of the right length or presumably a half-lap joint.

@ifixcoinops Which of course was touched on in the last 3 minutes I couldn't watch before the baby went to daycare :p

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