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This quiz archive.gameswithwords.org/Whi guesses my native language may be (in this order): English, Swedish, Dutch, none of which is correct (Russian). This tells me my grammar is pretty much correct by now, and only pronunciation gives me away :-)

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@isagalaev Funny, I get exactly the same guesses. I am Flemish which of course is very close to Dutch. My local dialect guesses were
English (England), Scottish (UK), North Irish (UK), a bit odd that Scottish was not first.

@isagalaev It might get better: "The algorithm is only just starting to be able to guess native languages other than English. As it learns more, we'll know more about what the distinguishing features of different language backgrounds are."

@wim_v12e @isagalaev That quiz was quite good at highlighting the tension between my intuitive sense of correctness, and what I "know" to be the correct answer. "How old are you?" is of course more idiomatic for me as a dutch speaker, but I know "What age are you" to be correct.

@michiel @isagalaev "How old are you" is very common too though, at least where I live (Glasgow).

@michiel @isagalaev That is one of the problems with the quiz: the notion of what is "correct" grammar in English is poorly defined. There might be a tendency to be overly strict in the answers compared to what is generally accepted.

@wim_v12e
Also they are trying to navigate a hyperdimensional space (number of languages as coordinates) with a potentially under determined set of equations (questions and responses). Even if this is a linear problem, this is hopeless.
@michiel @isagalaev

@isagalaev My English dialect is US Black Vernacular/Ebonics and I am a native German speaker. This quiz couldn't be more spot on 😊
Thanks for bringing it to my attention!

@Bella I was actually not surprised it couldn't detect my Russian origins. Pretty much nobody can when talking to me in person… except other Russian speakers :-) Americans usually guess me as German for some reason, but I realize it's probably Hollywood-induced accent stereotypes more than anything else.

@isagalaev @Bella It’s funny. My German accent is frequently identified as Russian or French here in the US. 😃

@tsturm @isagalaev @Bella

Funny, I'm German and the most time that I had spent in English speaking countries was in Malta and the UK, a few weeks at a time.

The guess for me was:
Dialect:
1. US Black Vernacular / Ebonics
2. American (Standard)
3. Canadian

Native:
1. Norwegian
2. English
3. Dutch

@gemlog @wim_v12e I'd never thought Canadian grammar was any different from Standard American…

@isagalaev
What is 'Standard American'? This is the first I've heard of it! :-)
People in different parts of Canada don't sound the same and people in different parts of the USA and Mexico sure don't either! Listen to this Newfie (person from Newfoundland, Canada) youtube.com/watch?v=pQc43b4OsR
Even when he stops 'putting it on' he still sounds like a Newfie.
Here's an extreme example from the USA youtube.com/watch?v=AIZgw09CG9
@wim_v12e

@gemlog @wim_v12e 'Standard American' is the term this quiz uses. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_ Basically, it's the variant of the language taught in schools. "Standard dialect" is not an uncommon notion. There's RP in British English, and we have Literary Russian in Russian.

@isagalaev
I was mostly teasing, sorry.
I'm just mildly rankled by the USA taking the name 'American' for themselves when there is a lot more to the Americas than the USA. Never mind.
@wim_v12e

@isagalaev
I do want to say that I have never heard the phrase 'Standard American' until today.
Perhaps it is known to ESL learners or linguists. Or, perhaps it's because the quiz is from MIT, which is in you-no-where :-)
I had a fun time one day listening to these videos duckduckgo.com/?t=canonical&q=
Perhaps you will enjoy them too. I'm trapped there now listening to a young lady from Alabama...
@wim_v12e

@gemlog @isagalaev This, from My Fair Lady, seems apt:

"""
An Englishman's way of speaking absolutely classifies him,
The moment he talks he makes some other
Englishman despise him.
One common language I'm afraid we'll never get.
Oh, why can't the English learn to
set a good example to people whose
English is painful to your ears?
The Scotch and the Irish leave you close to tears.
There even are places where English completely
disappears.
Well, in America, they haven't used it for years!
"""

@gemlog @wim_v12e oh I'm a big language and accent nerd myself :-) But there is such a thing as "official" or "standard" language in many countries. And there is a slow convergence of many dialects to a common denominator as people and cultures mix together.

@isagalaev
I don't know about other languages, but there is nothing like the académie française or even the kind of agreements between some countries that resulted in the german spelling reform a while back.
No agreement on spelling, grammar or even pronunciation - it's a glorious mess! :-)
Or basic meanings of some things e.g. public schools and private schools. Even arithmetic - we're three orders of magnitude apart on what number the word 'billion' represents!
@wim_v12e

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