Ivan Sagalaev @isagalaev@mastodon.social

@yogthos @clacke agreed with that!

@clacke @yogthos I should look into that, thanks. One thing, the name of a party doesn't necessarily mean it does what we might expect :-)

@yogthos @clacke no, I certainly didn't imply totalitarian regimes are efficient :-)

Sacrificing *some* efficiency in the workplace is totally fine, but I do believe it's better achieved by setting legal limits on what businesses can do, instead of trying actual democracy. Because that would not just reduce efficiency, but completely kill any ability to achieve results.

@yogthos @clacke "all the employees have a voice regarding how the business is run, then we can have a reasonable democracy." — that unfortunately tends to happen at the expense of efficiency. People on lower levels of responsibility tend to think they know what the company should do, but in reality they usually simply lack information for making those decisions. That's why hierarchies actually work.

(Unless I completely misunderstand what you're saying, in which case, fuck the medium :-) )

@clacke @yogthos a century sounds like a stretch. It only started to happen in 1970s, I believe, when Reagan and Thatcher went hard right, while a few other European countries played with left ideas and settled on what they are now. So far it looks like it works better than US in particular. And I certainly don't expect a perfect utopian society in such a short time.

Remember, most people are still going to be jerks towards other people, it's hard to overcome that.

@clacke @yogthos I'm betting on social democracy so far.

@yogthos I'm… not sure it has anything to do with capitalism itself. Sounds more like human nature to me. Feudal societies were quite rich in psychopathic lords and rulers as far as I know.

Regardless, fostering social institutions is the only way to fight that. As in, societies where psycho- and sociopaths are being limited should theoretically win in the long wrong. But it should be a conscious effort to maintain this, it won't happen by itself.

@yogthos it's important to understand that "system" here actually means "people". Normal, well-meaning people around and including us rewarding aggressive behavior for "winning". We like winners.

@jamey oh the glorious life of an open source maintainer…

@anthracite possibly related, media also often refers to "bloggers", as if there was any coherence or common trait to all people who write their stuff on the Internet.

@yisraeldov sounds like one of those things you should do a hundred times and then you forget what was so hard about it in the beginning :-)

Finally had a chance to map a run in Moscow! Sokolniki is nice this time of year, after summer heat but before everything gets muddy and dull. The only downside so far is people smoking everywhere.

I have no idea how to say "облепиховый чай" in English, but it's what I'm having right now, and I'm happy!

Braced for a 9 hour flight. I hate those...

@sa0bse regarding 1), yay! Fediverse is growing! Regarding 2), *food* conversations? How? :-)

I have a feeling I've been to JFK airport a little too many times lately...

@ericflo nope... People would still whine that someone is "forcing" them to change their precious legacy code and rage-quit to Go.

@sa0bse this is a very surprising statistics!