1) workers control the means of production
2) democracy of the workplace
3) turn the fucking music off
4) destroy the profit motive
How’s that boot taste bud?
I guess you never did any volunteer work at all ever.
@jankoekepan you literally said “The only way of destroying the profit motive is destroying all possible means for people to better their own lot, or that of their families.” Maybe you can’t imagine a version of the world founded on generosity and truly efficient allocation of the world’s resources, but I can.
Plus, all profits are the stolen wages of workers like me. We create value through our labor and receive a starvation wage in return, while the capitalists steal the rest.
OK, so let's discuss.
The profit motive is not something defined by money. In fact, it's not even defined by a system in which money exists. You can have a profit motive, alive and well, in a pre-modern tribal society. What form does it take?
The improvement of conditions. A more productive vegetable garden. Children with valuable skills. A larger flock of sheep, or a stock of excellent fish traps. Things that make life better. That is the essence. (contd.)
@jankoekepan this was possibly the most verbose way of deliberately misunderstanding “profit motive” and “means of production.” I’m not talking about “self-improvement” and I’m definitely not talking about my fucking mastodon mentions.
Just like this post so I know you saw it and I’ll block you.
@jankoekepan I don’t owe you a debate or anything else for that matter. Bye.
Not quite sure how I ended on this thread, but also checked out a few of your other toots.
You appear to have a view of economics / motivation based on (hyper?) individualism. Somewhat how I understand economics is often taught - describing the world in a way that aligns with neo liberal thought.
Think you could benefit from considering some alternative viewpoints.
You ever looked at Graebers research that backed his book Debt?
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