it’s interesting how as you go up the hierarchy from molecules to cells to organs to a whole person, it gets cleverer and cleverer, but if you keep going, to families and organisations to cities and to nations it starts getting stupider again

@jk it gets to a point where we overthink it, and then we don't think about it all and rely on instincts that were better suited for when we didn't have societies larger than 300 people

@jk @Aleums reminds me of that MIB quote “a person is smart; people are dumb”

@jk There are efficient forms of organizations, which most companies are not. And Marty, you are still not thinking in four dimensions!

We pass and accumulate knowledge, and anything we personally accomplish lies on shoulders of giants.

I mean, you can certainly have smarter groups of people (cooperatives, communes, etc). But I think as your groups get larger it's harder to manage because our monkey brains can't fathom more that 150 people at a time and that's where things go wrong and start to get dumber and dumber the bigger the group gets. But hey, that's just my opinion and speculation man.

I'm not sure. Civilization, moral, ethics, technology, lower mortality rates, improved health treatments, science advances in many areas, including social sciences. All that speaks to groups, mico (families) , messo (community) and macro (society). Our progress speed can't be judged as we don't have a point of reference (alien civilization) to compare to. All the "stupidity" you mention can be compared in human biology with cancerous cells, or damaged by toxins, or infections

@jk I would say that depends on your definition of cleverness. Let's take: finding new and effective ways to achieve your goals. Then some organizations (companies) are very cleverly achieving their goals: make money.

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