*EXTREMELY LINUX VOICE*
you GOTTA upgrade the software on your computer or someone may hack you, and steal all your money. so make sure to ALWAYS update your computer.
btw, sometimes when you update your computer, it'll ask you if you want to replace some important-sounding script youve never heard of yet have apparently changed
this means you now have to work out:
-what the script is
-what it does
-what "your" changes do/mean
-what their changes do
-which set of changes to keep
I mean, does viewing the differences give you anything legible? that's what I normally do, and I find it fairly intelligible? or is my perspective lensed for some reason
@marlyn i looked at the differences. and it was a script which i didn't know the purpose of, it seems to mostly be setting environment variables and writing to other files in other places and calling other tools that i have never heard of. the changes consist of a few logic changes, for instances adding an "AND" operator to a few if statements to check an additional variable's state. i do not understand what the names of any of the variables mean or what the script does
@marlyn @jk 1. The person has to be using Hexchat. 2. The person has to be using _that_ Xchat, no not that other Xchat, or that other fork or mIRC or w/e. 3. It would not subscribe the browser to server URLs or w/e so you'd need to find the option hidden in the menubar that lets you connect, and you'd have to make sure that yes, the server URL syntax is correct. 4. "No I can't help you because I did it myself on this other client, do it yourself."
@jk @marlyn 5. Even if it did subscribe to the URL or protocol or w/e it'd probably be relying on a separate package that isn't installed by default, and may also conflict with, or not be honored by the current desktop environment, browser, or w/e. 6. "You need to register with NickServ, so do all this weird stuff that starts with a slash. Trust us."
@marlyn @jk "7. Don't post large text here! Upload it somewhere, but we're not going to provide any hosting space for it, so figure it out yourself. But also don't use those URL shorteners." 8. To be pingable 24/7 you have to be connected 24/7, which wastes electricity. 9. No, IRC bouncers just paper over the problem. Even Quassel, which is far easier to use than typical IRC bouncers, has issues.
@jk @marlyn 10. The mere act of logging onto IRC may expose you to DoS attacks. Apparently this is a big enough issue that Freenode has a special thing called "cloaks" to mitigate this. No, you don't get to have one by default. You have to do this song and dance for it. And then the cloak won't even be applied for the first few seconds you're actually connected, so it's useless
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1. I only used Hexchat as an example, other clients such as quassel, pidgin, and mibbit should also be able to open such links. For example, I think this link should be parsable to such clients? Your web browser should offer a list of IRC clients registered to handle that URI if you click on links in this form (this one is a dummy example and not real, however)
5. Browser-embedded clients such as mibbit or kiwi are good fall-backs if the user only has "default" software, or if they have difficulties configuring their client
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For some of your grievances, the "ircv3" project is aiming to streamline the UX so it is on par with more modern chat programs --
6. For registration without fiddling with arcane commands and messages
8,9. For recalling missed chat history without a bouncer:
10. Agreed, IRC servers exposing user IPs is trash praxis. I know of some that offer cloaks by default, but I have no idea why that isn't the standard everywhere.
11. This one seems like a culture issue that won't be solved by a different choice of communication platform, unfortunately
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7. This would be an instance where chat programs flounder for this purpose - none of the ones I use regularly (Discord, primarily) allow posting large text dumps directly, nor do they serve well for seeking through such data all at once. Services such as imgur, pastebin, and github's "gist" allow getting around some of that. "no url shorteners allowed" sounds like a strange policy, although are they necessary for linking text dumps or images? When does one normally utilize URL shorteners? (my apologies, I am not familiar with the use of those)
one time i accepted the defaults on an apache upgrade and it completely fucked my website for about a day until i realised that all it was is they had changed their configuration file's terminology slightly so that i just needed to replace all instances of the word "lock" in my config with the word "mutex"
@jk oh yeah that'll happen
why did me upgrading my system remove the font that i use. why??? what the fuck is going on??? can someone explain how and why this can or should happen
@jk because sometimes upstream do stupid things? I remember filing a Firefox bug because they removed support for a certain type of font.
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