Activists rally to save Internet Archive as a lawsuit from publishers threaten to shut it down

If people are smart, it's time to archive the Archive right now. In other words, fork it and turn it unto a decentralized platform. I hope someone out there is working on that.

Plus you have to think libraries need some decentralization as well as this lawsuit could kill libraries as we know them.

@joeo They've been waiting for an excuse to do this, ever since Glenn Beck did that show hating on libraries a couple of years back. I'm quite surprised that it's stayed around as long as it has.

And, of course, the archive.bak project has been inert for a good while. /r/datahoarder has been worried about it for a while but I don't know if there's an organized effort.

@drwho Yep, I have heard those issues. Him and a person named Chuck W. has basically spearheaded this assault for years and you know who loses the most if they get their wish? Everybody but them and publishers.

Which is the reason why decentralizing it is the only way to go at this point in time.

@joeo Yup, that's why they do it. They're not happy with winning if they can't make other folks suffer by losing. If they're successful, they'll probably go after the Khan Academy next.

It is why I store local copies of so much stuff, and run torrents of the stuff I got from them. And have a tracker running (though that's mostly because the Archive's trackers are made of suck and fail).

@joeo The biggest thing that concerns me is, they're up in the double digits of petabytes these days.

@joeo Libraries where they still exist are being eroded thru lack of funding the main reason libraries are in decline. Or they are turning into community centres with banks of computers and have already lost space for books. The death of physical libraries is not connected to this. PUblishers do not object to their buying physical copies of books a small percentage is paid back based on number of borrowings. That's if you live in a country that has libraries.

@joeo It's a hard problem to solve.

One of the benefits of the internet archive is their centralized control over the content and centralized access to it.

I bet large portions of the IA is already available in thousand torrents. But it's super hard to find because torrents are by design only available to the people who share the magnet link or torrent file.

So you need to globally search through all the peers, while maintaining some kind of plausible deniability, and at the same moderate it.

@rune That's going to be a huge challenge and you're right there's no easy solution but the people who are going to do this at least have to try before it's too late. I say they have at least three years.


Just move the hosting to a less litigiously freaky country.

@jonw Or move the servers to Switzerland, which has some of the strongest privacy and decentralized laws in the world. I would like to see them relocate there for a decentralized project.


Switzerland is indeed a less litigiously freaky country.

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