So Google remotely turns on powersaver on Pixels, Tesla remotely prolongs battery life on cars, ... Are you people sure that's the way it should be?

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Apple removes “purchased” movies from your collection, Amazon deletes books from your Kindle, …

@jpmens The other side of the story is that we're moving towards a service-market.

You don't want to own a lightbulb. You want light. You don't want to own a Tesla. You want comfortable transportation.

In that light, "renting a service" makes sense. And then it makes sense that the provider is the owner (not you), and remotely fixes stuff.

@jpmens The main thing that makes this scary is "privacy" though.

If I don't own the lightbulb, do I automatically hand over all the data about when it is switched on or off, to the provider?

@berkes yes, you will. Same with the “rental” car: the operator will always want to know where it is, how fast it’s driving, and whether you’re applying the brakes carefully or not. Oh, and they’ll also want to ensure that you cannot drive into particular geographical areas.

@jpmens my point.

So we should search for a model in which we don't need to own 'stuff', but do keep our privacy.

At least, that is my stance.

I wouln't know where to start that search, though. Blockchain ? Federation? DIY?

@berkes @jpmens

Privacy is dead. They already know more about you than you do. There is no way to get that data back. just sit down, buckle up and enjoy the ride. Don't take life to seriously - its not like you're going to make it out alive at the end anyway 😜. Life is just a terminal STD.

@AndrzejL @jpmens I disagree.

Privacy is not an absolute, binary thing.

It's not even a fixed spectrum of more, or less privacy. It's a dynamic, context-based, time-affected thing.

You don't need the same privacy in a tent, on a festival, as you do at your psych.

Privacy is not 'dead', it's still up to you how much you want, and where you think it is important enough to exchange for services or free goodies.

@berkes I don’t disagree, but we’re talking about Tesla owners and people who purchased a movie or a book. They thought.

But they didn’t purchase. Whatever they thought they purchased is now gone.

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