This is coming from a place of making a living wage but

‘Capital stealing the value of my labor’ doesn’t feel nearly as important as capital stealing my LIFE.

40 hours of my week + recovery time. My education choices. Where I can live. Whether I own a pet. Capitalism limits all the wonderful things I could do in life.

I know money can acquire some of these things. I just think the phrase ‘capitalism steals the value of your labor’ isn’t communicating well how much capitalism steals from us.


Agreed. I think that is why I gravitate towards the anarchist way of thinking. Socialism has great economic analysis but I feel is not centrally concerned with the question of liberty. We are SO spiritually crushed by capitalism. How can we get free from the means by which it constrains us? I don't want to run the factory, I want out out out!

@kavbojka @queeranarchism FYI the Soviet Union was planning to reduce the working day to less than 4 hours by 1980. Unfortunately revisionism took hold before this could be achieved.


Yeah, personally I'd be fine working in a worker-owned factory, provided I could bring my dog, sign up for shifts when I felt like it and sign out when I want more rest, travel to a different city and do an occasional shift in a factory there, also do 'work' in cooking, art, gardening. etc.

If a factory is the kind of building we need to meet some of our needs, I don't mind. It's the clock-in, clock-out, tied-down in one place, 'every day is the same' aspects that need to go.

@kavbojka @queeranarchism the factory should run itself so we can just go "make me a..... idk a cute dress" and then the only work is if it breaks to fix it

@kavbojka @queeranarchism like kjsdfgkjg i mean in an automation way not like. how things are right now way

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