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Everytime people put emojis between every single word of a post, I think about the accessibility issues that tends to present.

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@maloki its a black cultural thing, and intended to be condescending. accessibility really isn't a concern in that context reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comm

@cyrinsong Oh yeah, I understand where it came from. But the people I've seen comment on the accessibility of it is PoC ... so yeah.

@maloki my point is that the claps are, by intent, rude and mildly off-putting.

This issue is akin to talking about the accessibility issues in shouting your comments at someone through a megaphone

also I mean "black" specifically, not PoC in general

@cyrinsong Yeah, I gotcha.
Thank you for the clarification.
I did know it's roots. But I mean, it still bothers me. ;) Since it's spread.

@maloki Every time someone starts their display name with emoji I think about how someone with a screen reader probably knows them as "Eye in Speech Bubble Optical Disk" or "Rainbow Flag Octopus".

@Vavassor @maloki Honestly, that seems kind of whimsical and delightful (the display name thing, not the emoji between every word of a post).

I guess I'm known, on this instance, as "Adam Snider Canadian Flag." On another, I'd be "Adam Snider Black Flag," which sounds kinda badass.

@maloki @Vavassor an emojis-to-sound-effects voice font, maybe?

[I have limited-to-no experience doing accessibility stuff. Is that a obviously-silly idea?]

@gaditb @maloki @vavassor

ironically, my name reads exactly the same with a screen reader

@Vavassor @maloki
How usable even is mastodon with a screenreader, & do they have good support for emoji yet?

My limited / secondhand understanding is that, like a lot of software that has a relatively small audience, accessibility software like the screenreader is perpetually about 20 years behind & about 20% effective in terms of support, despite pushes.

@enkiv2 @maloki I don't know about the web site. I've tried to make a decent experience with TalkBack in Tusky but it could still use some smoothing out. Like, the focus order isn't great and some errors aren't signaled well.

But yeah, most do support emoji but read a very exact description of the image. Which can be short, like "Cat", or more like "Face With Stuck-Out Tongue & Winking Eye".

@Vavassor @maloki
Good to know!

Those sound like they might be the official unicode consortium names for the emoji.

Do ligature emoji (such as flags) work?

@Vavassor @maloki Henceforth, I wish to be known as "Rainbow Flag Octopus (the first)"

@maloki Thinking is already unreadable "normally" ... yeah

Hello "applaud" how "applaud" are "applaud" you ?

@maloki

the bigger question is how accessibility deals with unicode in general. i can't find anything on unicode.org.

admittedly, unicode should be marchine parseable, but how would a screen reader display a pineapple without making it sound like pineapple is part of the conversation?

i guess this is also a question for emoticons and even punctuation. does it read an ellipsis or just pause?

@wxl @maloki Good question...would a screen reader just say "pineapple" or would it say "pineapple emoji?" The latter is longer, but probably provides some useful clarity.