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What's funny about Oracle is like, most tech companies, people probably feel *skeevy* about, but also most tech cos have done 1 thing you Like. Lots of people love their Apple products. You might be annoyed at Google right now but there was probably a time they made you happy in some way. Microsoft? People do like XBoxes. OpenAI has fans!

But NOBODY interacts with Oracle on purpose. Even coders don't *pick* Oracle. There's no brake on you just *resenting* Larry Ellison.

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Most humans go their entire lives without ever having a reason to have a distinct thought about Oracle. But if someone did decide to start developing outright hatred, for Oracle, there would be no cognitive dissonance cost to this. Even if there's an Oracle product you like it's probably something they purchased from another company, and you could always identify at least one way in which they made it worse

@mcc I was force-fed Oracle early in my career via a founder who thought they knew best, even if it meant overpaying for a self-hosted pain-in-the-arse DBMS.

I have spent the 15 years since avoiding anything they touch like it's radioactive. 'Cause it kinda is.

mcc

@valthonis I remember a time you could make a legitimate compelling case that the Oracle database products were more reliable than the open-source or Microsoft alternatives.

I also remember attending rallies for the Ralph Nader campaign*.

* No, I didn't vote for him, and anyway I wasn't 18

@mcc @valthonis Back in about 2004 or so, an official Oracle DB consultant cost $500/hr.

Our company cut Oracle out of the equation, however, by hiring a different Oracle DB consultant, a free-agent who wasn't officially from Oracle.

They charged $200/hr instead.