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I'm going to make a thread about how much I hate how the re-20 looks. Here I go.

So, as far as broadcast microphones go, there are two that are direct competitors, they get put against each other all the time, they both have their own great credits and people love them for different reasons, but they're both industry standards. These are the Electro Voice RE20 and the Shure SM7B

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First up is the SM7B. You've probably seen this, it's been used in a lot of popular podcasts made by men who don't deserve it. It's big claim to fame is that Thriller was recorded on it, it's got a warm tone, it sounds great on higher pitched voices, it's great and it's nice to look at.

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Then we have this big green crayon called "asshole". It looks like a machine made to turn the speaker into mulch if they act up. This thing looks like shit.

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The important thing to note here is that the RE20 is 50 dollars more (about 450 USD at the time of this post) and it has looked like this for forever. They have zero intention of ever changing this. This thing looked like shit when they made it, it looked like shit five years ago, and it will look like shit up until capitalism collapses and the company goes completely under.

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This thing has a fantastic sound, wonderful on deeper voices, gives that broadcaster sound you know and love. Alex Jones used this microphone, ESPN used this microphone, Radiohead uses this microphone, it's tried and true amazing. But baby, it looks like fucking dogshit.

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How the fuck is this thing 450 dollars? Fucking leapfrog cereal box ass looking microphone. I hate it so much. And that's not even like the "true" cost of it. Both these microphones are incredibly quiet (coming in around -50db each) and require either an amazing audio interface (we're not talking your focusrite 2nd gen solo, we're talking a big investment) or something to boost the signal in-line.

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So let's say you don't have the money for a great interface because you spent 450 fucking american dollars on a medieval torture device. You've already dropped probably 100-200 on an interface, 20-30 bucks on a cable, but now it's too quiet so you look into cheap solutions like a fethead or cloudlifter. One of these things.

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A fethead will set you back around 90 USD, the cloudlifter is about 150. These things are made to bump up the sound to a normal, listenable level. So already, at the very least, you're out 90 dollars for what you thought would be a 450 USD purchase. Now you'll probably notice from these images that it's in-line, meaning you need another cable. That's another 20-30 bucks unless you're going for some big brand like Mogami and then it's around 50~.

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Now let's talk about shockmounts. If you bump your desk or move whatever the microphone is mounted to, you will hear bullshit rumbling. It sounds like this. vocaroo.com/aKGEyikkojF

This is with a shockmount. If you have your mic sitting on your desk, without one, it's going to sound way worse. This already sounds like shit. This brings us back to the SM7B. You see this part? The shockmount is built in. 400 dollar purchase, it's included. Quality.

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The RE20 does not have this. The RE20 has a recommended shockmount for $100 that looks like image 1. Image 2 is the knockoff that a lot of people use to, from what I understand, good results. It's about 15-20 USD cheaper depending on where you look.

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SO! Let's say you are looking for a good dynamic cardioid microphone. You want a fucking tried and true mic with very good off-axis rejection, something that will last you goddamn forever. Maybe you don't have hundreds to spend on treating your room's acoustics or have noisy roommates, a dynamic cardioid like either of these is great for that reason. And let's say you find these mics and think "400/450 USD, not a bad price considering what you save in high quality foam".

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You will end up paying so much fucking more at the end of the day because of all these little problems these mics have. They are fantastic microphones, don't get me wrong, but there are so many hidden costs and the RE20, already the more expensive microphone, has another $100~ tacked onto it. Let's figure those costs up.

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A focusrite solo (3rd gen) will set you back around a hundred bucks. Two 6 ft XLR cables that will last you longer than a few months are going to be about 25 USD each. An in-line mic activator is about 150 new if you go with the cloudlifter (I hear so many complaints about the fethead so I'm going to use the more expensive one). And then the shockmount if you go with the cyberpunk clue weapon.

$300 without the shockmount, $400 with, for what you thought was going to be an easy purchase.

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So now you have that to worry about on top of the microphone costs. Again, around 400~ USD for the SM7B (new) and $450~ for the RE20, a microphone that looks like shit.

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I got way off track and actually started trying to teach you all about this, I apologize. My point is that if you want to buy an expensive microphone, even one that looks like it can be used to kill a horse, you will have so many expenses besides the actual microphone. Do your research, read reviews, go to your local shop and ask to rent these to see if you even like them. Kill your oppressors, capitalism is designed to bleed you dry, steal a microphone from your local white, cishet podcasters.

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Oh and that's not even figuring in a boom arm or mic stand or whatever you use. The RE20 looks like it will call you a slur if you engage any of the switches on the back. Okay, I'm done. Thanks.

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@wxcafe honestly i trust that microphone. That mic would never talk shit about you to anyone.

@melt it's great to talk to my colleagues over mumble on a connection that drops 10% of the packets. also for like, fucking twitch or whatever.

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@melt as a person looking to improve their audio understanding in order to better use a computer via dictation software (RSI, oof), this is incredibly useful, thanks for the thorough explanation!!

@antifuchs @melt see now this is the quality content I come here for

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