@mkb I don't mind it honestly. Absolutely agree, make encryption accessible and available to everyone. I've had my mom, really most of my family, using it for years now with no issues.
@greyor I haven’t tried my parents but virtually all my friends are using it. With most of them I was surprised at how easily they switched.
With my folks I felt like I’d overplayed my “You must try this new thing!” cards but maybe it’s been long enough now that I can try pushing Signal.
@mkb nah, proselytize away. It's a net good I think. 😁
@mkb are there still sync issues when running with the desktop and mobile versions at once? This is the only thing holding me back from switching all my friends.
@davengkel The one sync issue I can think of is when you don’t launch Desktop for a long time it can struggle a little bit.
Sounds like you’re referring to something different though. What’s the issue you see?
@mkb Missing messages when I send messages from both phone and desktop. I can only rely on my phone to remember my entire message history. After reinstalling oses or new units, it seems like I lose all messages at least on pc.
@mkb bUt iT Is bLoAt11!!!!1!!!
@mkb I was upset for some time that I couldn't install it because it required me to trust Apple or Google, and - when I checked recently, it was available for sideloading on Android (i.e. Android without Google cruft installed.)
So thank you for the reminder that I should install this _immediately._
Lot's of problems with #signal:
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @mkb While these are points which are concerning (in particular, the hidden apk on the website kept me from using it for 2 years) the alternative list contains a total of 0 alternatives which have fewer issues.
I am a strong advocate for using irc, self hosted, with ssl; however the number of people who believe this is too complex is greater than one.
@mkb @Truck but if counting the issues is what matters to you, #Signal is most certainly the worst of them. The sum total of issues of Briar, Wire, Telegram, XMPP *combined* would struggle to exceed this list: https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/779
@mkb @Truck and if you or your correspondants are in Europe, the abuse is mandated GSM registration: https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/9ziqfi/european_countries_requiring_registration_of/
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