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<< During a talk at SXSW, an audience member asked Ocasio-Cortez about the threat of automated labor. “We should not be haunted by the specter of being automated out of work,” she said in response. “We should be excited by that. But the reason we’re not excited by it is because we live in a society where if you don’t have a job, you are left to die. And that is, at its core, our problem.” >>

<< “We should be working the least amount we’ve ever worked, if we were actually paid based on how much wealth we were producing,” she said. “But we’re not. We’re paid on how little we’re desperate enough to accept. And then the rest is skimmed off and given to a billionaire.” >>

@natecull a problem that no politician can ever solve because all politicians are capitalists, even her.

@lyliawisteria Not to be pedantic but I think Lenin and Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot and even Ghengis Khan were perhaps politicians who weren't capitalists. Hitler and Mussolini, marginal.

Or if you define 'capitalism' in such a way as to include them, I think you render it pretty much an empty word.

Capitalism as we know it right now is pretty bad, but there can be, and have been, much worse things.

Words have meanings, and 'capitalist' is not just equivalent to 'powerful person I don't like'.

@lyliawisteria Like, I see there's two major huge failure modes of capitalism right now:

1) wealth inequality, which if left unchecked is tending back towards unmaking the entire Renaissance and recreating the medieval/feudal world of Emperors, Kings, Lords and Serfs. That's bad but we've been there before, and the end state isn't 'capitalism' it's 'empire' or
feudalism'.

2) planetary biosphere destruction, which is new-ish (maybe) ... but the Communist states also made giant eco-disasters.

@lyliawisteria So it's almost like there's something destructive in human nature that's much deeper than just 'capitalism' (a very recent invention of the last 400 years or so) and reoccurs even when attempts are made to point fingers at 'capitalism' and try to root that out. And even 'modernity' has made that thing worse by amplifying our powers, and 'post-modernity' has done very little to fix modernity's faults. Whatever comes next, I dunno, but I hope someone comes up with something.

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