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<< The [Whole Earth] Catalog become one of the first representations of the commune world. It was a map. Embedded in all those products was a map of all the different communes that were using and recommending them.

So, the thing that I would like to see, that I don’t think Google is, is a map, a kind of map of an alternative kind of society, a better kind of society. I don’t think the Whole Earth Catalogs mapped a better society, but they tried. >>

<< Can we see a map of alternative communities, communities that are taking things in different directions, not just, can we search using digital tools for tools that help us lead our life the way we want to? ..

Can we identify communities that are taking us in directions we want to, map their interconnections, and find some way for ourselves to search our way into new kind of community, and new kinds of institutions? I think that’s what I would like to see. >>

Me too!

I think that's kinda what I feel like I'm doing... in my ramblings on Mastodon, and my vague unearthing of the 1970s New Age networks, as well as the early microcomputer and Intelligence Augmentation folks... looking for traces of those 'new communities'

I think they're buried, like seeds or roots, but, not gone.

The 1980s came and burned over a lot of the hippie world. The 1990s burned the USSR and the Left. The 2000s War on Terror and 2010s Facebook burned more.

But some things survived.

<< So we have inherited from the Whole Earth Catalog a language of individuals, tools, and communities, which we’ve translated, I think, in tech speak, into individuals, communities, and networks. I would like to see a language of institutions, resources, and negotiation take its place. >>

<< FT: , under the Catalog, an idea that the counterculture and neoliberalism share: if you just free people up and build a market structure, things take care of themselves. What this idea ignores is the persistence of subsidies, of regulation, of shared state resources, of things as basic as roads and bridges. If you don’t tend to that subsidy, you can’t have any of the other freedoms

So, that’s what we need. We need to be alert to sharing and sustaining our public resources. >>

@natecull health realization has a lot of applications in urban planning. The u of o has done a lot of work in that regard and the city of eugene has adopted some of their ideas. Not just for projects but for programs to plan projects

@natecull which is the golden rule, do unto others as you would have them do to you. And the great enigma which is that sometimes what you would now have them do to you might not be what you then would have had them do to you. Theyve became a different person , and so have we.

@natecull My answeer is that we should treat others as -we- would have them treat us. That means the past we and the present we and the future we. The sanatan we.

@natecull This is why I am so hot on Linux and FLOSS - I think there's still a kernel of this left in here.

@craigmaloney Yep, definitely!

We need to somehow leverage it up to community-forming and actual economics. Not sure how to do that; it's a very hard problem.

I'd hoped that Green Dollars / LETS and Time Banking might help, but, I just haven't managed to connect with those. 'Having an actual good/skill to trade' is a very hard problem to begin with.

@craigmaloney @natecull everything is a process, a pointer and a file. just like the trimurti, its all creation and destruction and perception all at the same time.

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