The Internet Gods, 2018:
Security! Security! SSL everywhere! Mandatory two-factor authentication! Full-device encryption! Hardware on-chip secure enclaves!
The Internet Gods, also 2018:
let's just give Jeff Bezos all our private RAM, and the official Node.js installer is literally curl | sudo bash
@pony apt secure makes sure the file hasn't been modified since it was uploaded. Https just secures bytes in transit. Also there's only one organization to trust unlike the hundreds of certificate authorities
@natecull No true Scotsman... err I mean Internet god would recommend Node.js.
@seanl Indeed. It's a very good thing for all of us that the Web doesn't have anything to do with the Internet, isn't it!!!
@natecull The worlds of "web development" and "computer programming" do seem like entirely separate universes much of the time.
@natecull Also "web development" and "security".
@natecull To be fair, RVM (Ruby's VM manager) made the `curl | bash` approach to installation quite popular back about 7 years ago.
But, this questionable behavior goes back even further, to the Usenet days, when people regularly distributed ".shar" archives. Who here is old enough to remember those? ;)
@natecull Thank glob for the ports tree I guess
@natecull those are different gods. Infosec/eff/fsf vs javascript devs/startups
Like so many other things in this topsy-turvy world, it wraps around.
One point at which they touch is web-based password and 'private' key management, for instance.
@alienghic
I think this is a key argument. The Internet Gods come from a complicated polytheistic soup much unlike the one of ancient Greece or Rome.
Factions exist with very strong differences and even though everyone from the outside views it as "just tech", in fact infosec, webdev, backend, devops, fintech, gamedev, etc. are all distinc even though sometimes overlapping factions pushing for optimizing sometime diametrically opposite aspects of tech.
@natecull
The real question is: who is going to play each of the Internet Gods in the inevitable Netflix series
@natecull
Also: which Internet god rules Netflix?
@kunev @alienghic
@natecull so are the gods, companies & organizations or people? Wondered would you cast a smaller newer company as a stand in for an older big one. Today we have purism as apple...
@kunev @alienghic @natecull Then you also get into a whole situation with transgressive deities, like the fox-demon who guards the crossroads of webdev and infosec...
@ewoozi
Most likely with a headache inducing level of details...
The trickster of DNS
The succubus of CSS
The elephant demi-god of text editors and his bickering offsprings
Each language it's own denomination of the overall religion which intersects with all other factions mentioned.
Now I kind of want to find someone with literary skills and push them to write a book on this 😄
@alienghic @natecull
@ritjoe @kunev @ewoozi @alienghic @natecull
You people are really, really trying to make me write #sysadmininferno, aren't you?
Oh, and: dammit, @mulander!
@mwlucas @ritjoe @kunev @ewoozi @alienghic @natecull I found a nice cover picture of Tux for #sysadmininferno.
@kunev @ewoozi @mwlucas @ritjoe @alienghic @natecull actually, @mwlucas already covered that one in #savagedbysystemd https://www.michaelwarrenlucas.com/index.php/romance/#sbs
@ewoozi trust me, we have plenty of tricksters and advocates for the devils lurking at the boundaries of infosec and madness.
@natecull node.js is coldfusion for a javascript-based internet!!!!
